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 Post subject: Re: Bye bye Scott
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:16 pm 
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By the way, if "environmental protection skeptics" in these forums really are concerned about invasive species, then the GOP deregulators in the USA senate ought to cause great concern. This spring a bunch of dogmatic "no regulations" senators tried to strip ballast water regulation and enforcement authority away from the US Coast Guard. (Ballast water is how, among several invasive species, Zebra mussels made it into the Great Lakes). Fortunately, environmentalists managed to ratchet up enough influence to prevent the senate from stripping that power from the USCG.

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 Post subject: Re: Bye bye Scott
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:01 pm 
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Environmental pollution is the Achilles heel of unregulated capitalism. This is true.

the question, of course, is the balance.

Giving taxpayer money to Solyndra....bzzzt. Using the EPA to enforce bullshit save the world anti-capitalist goals....BZZZT

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 Post subject: Re: Bye bye Scott
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:25 pm 
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Quite so.

Monsey should be spent in the US making the US more prosperous while reducing pollution.

I'm good with pushing cash at solar. Not good with pushing it at unreputable firms with insufficient knowledge, experience, or scale of operations, to do the job.

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I'm not an "environmental protection skeptic." I'm a skeptic of the perversion of "environmental protectionism" which has arisen these past decades as a result of the rise of the Cult of the Goreacle.

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 Post subject: Re: Bye bye Scott
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:35 pm 
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Mebbe you need to clarify a little rather than writing off the entire EPA as a facet of a conspiracy.

Look, if you're saying that the Paris accord is bullshit, no argument.

If you're saying CO2 forcing isn't causing global warming you're wrong.

Nor is it the case that recognizing the facts of CO2 forcing and the facts of ongoing warming necessarily means that the only solution requires loss of US sovereignty.

We should not fear to acknowledge the scientific facts because of some presumed policy that has been rejected apriori.

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What to call a person with a pathological urge to pollute? :roll:

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Scott Pruitt's Loophole for Glider Truck Manufacturers Faces Backlash

Former EPA administrator Scott Pruitt dealt a final blow to clean air initiatives before resigning Friday, implementing a loophole that will allow the production of thousands of diesel freight trucks with high emissions. The decision effectively undoes an Obama administration move that intended to cap production of these trucks at 300 per year, beginning this year.

These “glider trucks” use recycled engines built before new technology reduced the discharge of harmful particulates that pollute the air. These trucks emit as much as 55 times the amount of pollutants as trucks with modern engines, the New York Times reports.

Companies like Fitzgerald Glider Kits lobbied for this loophole, which allows them to ignore the 300-truck cap at least until the end of 2019. Last year, Fitzgerald Glider Kits made 3,000 glider trucks. President Donald Trump met with the CEO of this company when he was campaigning in 2016, and then again after taking office, Vox reports.

The move has been denounced by public health groups, environmental groups, and many in the trucking industry, including the United Parcel Service, the largest truck fleet owner, and Volvo Group, one of the largest truck manufacturers.

“This recent proposal to repeal the glider production limitations is unreasonable, is contrary to the provisions of the Clean Air Act, and undermines the multi-million dollar investments Volvo Group and others have made toward achieving tremendous air quality improvements in this country,” said the Volvo Group in its statement.

Vickie Patton, the general counsel at the Environmental Defense Fund, blames both Pruitt and new EPA administrator Andrew Wheeler for the effect the high pollutants will have on public health.

“Pruitt and Wheeler are creating a loophole for super polluting freight trucks that will fill our children’s lungs with toxic diesel pollution, ignoring public comments from moms and leading businesses across the country,” she told the Times.


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mdiehl wrote:
Mebbe you need to clarify a little rather than writing off the entire EPA as a facet of a conspiracy.

Look, if you're saying that the Paris accord is bullshit, no argument.

If you're saying CO2 forcing isn't causing global warming you're wrong.

Nor is it the case that recognizing the facts of CO2 forcing and the facts of ongoing warming necessarily means that the only solution requires loss of US sovereignty.

We should not fear to acknowledge the scientific facts because of some presumed policy that has been rejected apriori.


Your opinions are not facts.

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Your opinions are not facts.


Your opinion about my opinion is not well-informed.

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