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 Post subject: Re: Erdogan Leads Turkey to the Precipice
PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:36 pm 
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Erdogan and and his party are a bunch of Islamists. ISIS is Islamist.

Birds of a feather........

We agree on something. ;)

I support also the Kurdish cause; even they are Muslim by religion.

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chijohnaok wrote:
Erdogan and and his party are a bunch of Islamists. ISIS is Islamist.

Birds of a feather........

We agree on something. ;)

I support also the Kurdish cause; even they are Muslim by religion.

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Many Kurds are secular, particularly in the PKK/YPG, who are more socialist than Muslim. That's maybe why the Kurds are more trustworthy than any other people in the Middle East.


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 Post subject: Re: Erdogan Leads Turkey to the Precipice
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:00 pm 
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This is from a longer article on the Syrian Civil War:

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The Turkish actions towards U.S. backed Kurds in Syria is but one of several actions Turkey has taken to cut its ties with Western nations since World War II. Turkey is a member of NATO because of that but NATO is edging closer to expelling Turkey. Not so much for Turkish moves in Syria, but because Turkey is becoming an ally of Russia. More to the point Turkey has ordered two Russian S-400 anti-aircraft systems and is in line to get over a hundred new F-35 fighters. The S-400 is not compatible with the NATO air defense system and the F-35s contain a lot of technical secrets the Russians would like to get a close look at. Worse the current Russian government has accused NATO of plotting to destroy Russia. This fantasy is a ploy by the current (since 1999) Russian leaders to justify reviving police state rule. To get away with this Russia needs a scary foe that will not actually become a threat. China won’t do because China has claims on much of the Russian Far East while there is no such claims by any Western nation. Russia appears to be playing with both Turkey and Iran in Syria, but that’s another story.


https://www.strategypage.com/qnd/syria/ ... 80209.aspx


How confident can we be that selling our advanced F-35s to the Turks is not going to come back and bite us in the ass?

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 Post subject: Re: Erdogan Leads Turkey to the Precipice
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:59 pm 
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How confident can we be that selling our advanced F-35s to the Turks is not going to come back and bite us in the ass?


I think it's time for another 'Ottoman Navy Scandal' type confiscation of high tech military equipment we're building to arm a near-future enemy gov't.

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In early August 1914, Churchill commandeered Sultan Osman and Reşadiye – two battleships bought by the Ottomans from Vickers and Armstrong. 500 Turkish troops had arrived in a steamer at Newcastle on Tyne to sail the ships home, when Churchill made this last minute decision to grab them for the British fleet. This decision – deemed ‘British treachery’ – came with no promise of compensation and helped sway the Turkish people in favour of siding with Germany. In August 1914, the Ottoman Empire signed a treaty of alliance with Germany, and formally entered the First World War on 28th October 1914, with the bombing of Russian Black Sea ports. The Triple Entente, or Allied Powers, declared war on the Ottoman Empire on 4th November.
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http://armingallsides.on-the-record.org ... y-scandal/


If they still need to be sold, turn around and offer them to the Greeks or Eastern Euro NATO nations at a discount. Maybe hold some for a future Kurdish state, too. ;)

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His comments followed the release of the U.S. Department of Defence’s 2019 budget, which includes requests for funds to train and equip local forces in the fight against Islamic State in Syria.

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Turkey last month launched an incursion into Syria, which it calls “Operation Olive Branch” to sweep the YPG from its southern border. It has also threatened to press on to the Syrian town of Manbij, under the control of a YPG-led force, and has warned American troops stationed there not to get in the way.

Washington says it has no plans to withdraw its soldiers from Manbij and two U.S. commanders visited the town last week to reinforce that message.

“It is very clear that those who say ‘we will respond aggressively if you hit us’ have never experienced an Ottoman slap,” Erdogan said in parliament.


https://in.reuters.com/article/mideast- ... NKBN1FX0W8

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“It is very clear that those who say ‘we will respond aggressively if you hit us’ have never experienced an Ottoman slap,” Erdogan said in parliament.


Yo Erdy, we call your Ottoman and raise you an 18 piece living room sectional with B-2 end tables.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:21 am 
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What an a-hole the guy is. Turkey is never getting in the EU and they should be booted from NATO. Time for another Ergogan insulting limerick contest.

There once was a dick name of Erdy
Whose nation was overly turdy
One time in Eighteen
He attacked the Marines
And that was the end of old Turkey

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:12 pm 
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His comments followed the release of the U.S. Department of Defence’s 2019 budget, which includes requests for funds to train and equip local forces in the fight against Islamic State in Syria.

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Turkey last month launched an incursion into Syria, which it calls “Operation Olive Branch” to sweep the YPG from its southern border. It has also threatened to press on to the Syrian town of Manbij, under the control of a YPG-led force, and has warned American troops stationed there not to get in the way.

Washington says it has no plans to withdraw its soldiers from Manbij and two U.S. commanders visited the town last week to reinforce that message.

“It is very clear that those who say ‘we will respond aggressively if you hit us’ have never experienced an Ottoman slap,” Erdogan said in parliament.


https://in.reuters.com/article/mideast- ... NKBN1FX0W8


That jackanape is just asking for a stomping.

Almost wish he would try something stupid like that so we can finally ditch that bitch and be free to give more support to the Kurds.

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Syria: Allies, Foes, Frenemies and Chimeras
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The Afrin Angle

On January 20th Turkey began an offensive into northwest Syria against Afrin a town northwest of Aleppo city and long controlled by Syrian Kurds. Turkey is determined to make Afrin part of a buffer zone on the Syrian side of the Turkish border. The Assads and Iran are supporting Syrian Kurds defending Afrin. The Assads, Iran and the Syrian Kurds can all agree that keeping the Turks out is a good thing. So far the Turks have suffered about 300 dead but 80 percent of those are FSA rebels working with the Turks. The defenders have suffered heavier losses and continue to hold onto most of the territory they controlled before the Turkish offensive began with FSA (non-sectarian Free Syrian Army) and Turkish forces attacking in at least five different columns. The Turks have air support and larger numbers, or did until Kurdish and Syrian reinforcements showed up in late February. The Turks claim they have killed, captured or chased away about 3,000 Kurdish fighters in and around Afrin since January.
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https://www.strategypage.com/qnd/syria/20180308.aspx
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Ongoing battle being reinforced AFAICT.



Now to smth completely else, here´s some old-school mocking the Turk:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Belgrade_(1717)

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Scharfschütze wrote:
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Syria: Allies, Foes, Frenemies and Chimeras
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The Afrin Angle

On January 20th Turkey began an offensive into northwest Syria against Afrin a town northwest of Aleppo city and long controlled by Syrian Kurds. Turkey is determined to make Afrin part of a buffer zone on the Syrian side of the Turkish border. The Assads and Iran are supporting Syrian Kurds defending Afrin. The Assads, Iran and the Syrian Kurds can all agree that keeping the Turks out is a good thing. So far the Turks have suffered about 300 dead but 80 percent of those are FSA rebels working with the Turks. The defenders have suffered heavier losses and continue to hold onto most of the territory they controlled before the Turkish offensive began with FSA (non-sectarian Free Syrian Army) and Turkish forces attacking in at least five different columns. The Turks have air support and larger numbers, or did until Kurdish and Syrian reinforcements showed up in late February. The Turks claim they have killed, captured or chased away about 3,000 Kurdish fighters in and around Afrin since January.
...


https://www.strategypage.com/qnd/syria/20180308.aspx
YMMV.
Ongoing battle being reinforced AFAICT.



Now to smth completely else, here´s some old-school mocking the Turk:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Belgrade_(1717)

Shit, shit, shit.

Perkele!!!

Turks are attacking the only people in the area with some capability of organized existence with themselves or others in the area, like Assyrian Christians, or Yazidis.

Fuck Erdogan, fuck Turkey!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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