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 Post subject: Re: Lead Obama and Clinton fundraiser is a serial perv
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:50 am 
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You misogynistic bastards need more Islam...

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How the teachings of Islam could help us prevent more sexual abuse scandals

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I’m a Muslim, and a civil rights lawyer with a special interest in advocating for women’s rights. My advocacy is informed not just by the law, but by strategies detailed in Islamic teachings and Prophet Muhammad’s example to pre-empt sexual abuse. Yes, the cancer of sexual abuse against women that we see in Christian majority America is just as prevalent in Muslim majority Pakistan, but also in Hindu majority India and state atheist China. This proves that men worldwide are failing in our responsibility to end sexual abuse and gender based violence.

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Despite laws in France that criminalise sexual harassment, an astounding 100 per cent of French Parisian women on public transit report sexual harassment. France’s proposed response is legislation to ban cat-calling. Such legislation, if passed, will also fail because state laws only punish the actor once the act is completed, they don’t prevent the act in the first place. This scenario plays out repeatedly worldwide, whether we’re discussing “revenge porn”, gender based violence, or sexual harassment in the workplace.

This is where Islamic teachings and Prophet Muhammad’s example provide a solution that no state truly can. And while there are people who don’t believe that sexual abuse is even a problem, some on the left will disagree that accountability to a higher power is a solution.

Prophet Muhammad himself illustrated this point. In a famous incident, a woman described as strikingly beautiful approached the Prophet to seek his guidance on some religious matters. The Prophet’s companion, Al Fadl, began to stare at her because of her beauty. Noting this, the Prophet Muhammad did not scold the woman for her attire, but instead, he “reached his hand backwards, catching Al Fadl’s chin, and turned his face to the other side so that he would not gaze at her”.

Accordingly, the Prophet Muhammad by example demonstrated that the burden of modesty, respect, and combating abuse of women rests on men. Indeed, men must take the lead in stopping such sexual abuse. After all, while the Quran obliges women to dress modestly as a covenant with God, Islam prescribes no punishment whatsoever for women who choose to dress otherwise.

On the contrary, on numerous occasions Prophet Muhammad punished an accused rapist on the testimony of the rape survivor alone. In this environment of gender equity, women in Islam rise to the rank of legal scholars, warriors, entrepreneurs, and philanthropists while lovingly embracing identities as mothers and housewives.

Weinstein is a symptom of the greater disease of arrogance, unaccountability, societal apathy, and from men who knew of the abuse but did nothing. Islam and Prophet Muhammad provide a practical solution.

Sexual abuse of women will markedly decrease when men stop abusing women and when men stop thinking that just because they haven’t personally abused women, they have no further obligations. According to Islam, every man is accountable to stop abuse of women—by their word and by their acts. Many abusers like Weinstein walk our streets, terrorizing our neighbors. Together, we can employ a proven Islamic model that will stop this madness, and re-invoke gender equity today in America, and the world.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/har ... 01521.html



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Despite laws in France that criminalise sexual harassment, an astounding 100 per cent of French Parisian women on public transit report sexual harassment.


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Really? When was the last time that 100% of any group agreed on something/anything?

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This is where Islamic teachings and Prophet Muhammad’s example provide a solution that no state truly can. And while there are people who don’t believe that sexual abuse is even a problem, some on the left will disagree that accountability to a higher power is a solution.

Prophet Muhammad himself illustrated this point. In a famous incident, a woman described as strikingly beautiful approached the Prophet to seek his guidance on some religious matters. The Prophet’s companion, Al Fadl, began to stare at her because of her beauty. Noting this, the Prophet Muhammad did not scold the woman for her attire, but instead, he “reached his hand backwards, catching Al Fadl’s chin, and turned his face to the other side so that he would not gaze at her”.

Accordingly, the Prophet Muhammad by example demonstrated that the burden of modesty, respect, and combating abuse of women rests on men. Indeed, men must take the lead in stopping such sexual abuse. After all, while the Quran obliges women to dress modestly as a covenant with God, Islam prescribes no punishment whatsoever for women who choose to dress otherwise.

On the contrary, on numerous occasions Prophet Muhammad punished an accused rapist on the testimony of the rape survivor alone. In this environment of gender equity, women in Islam rise to the rank of legal scholars, warriors, entrepreneurs, and philanthropists while lovingly embracing identities as mothers and housewives.


Again, total bullshit.

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Quran (2:282) - Establishes that a woman's testimony is worth only half that of a man's in court (there is no "he said/she said" gridlock in Islam).

The Koran itself says that a woman's testimony is not the equal of a man's. How then does Islam help a woman to overcome sexual abuse when her testimony is minimized?

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A recent fatwa from a mainstream Islamic site echoes this rule and even chides a victim of incest for complaining when she has no "evidence":
However, it is not permissible to accuse the father of rape without evidence. Indeed, the Sharee’ah put some special conditions for proving Zina (fornication or adultery) that are not required in case of other crimes. The crime of Zina is not confirmed except if the fornicator admits it, or with the testimony of four trustworthy men, while the testimony of women is not accepted.

Hence, the statement of this girl or the statement of her mother in itself does not Islamically prove anything against the father, especially that the latter denies it.

Therefore, if this daughter has no evidence to prove that her accusations are true, she should not have claimed that she was raped by her father and she should not have taken him to the court.
(IslamWeb.net, Image)

Since it is incredibly unlikely that a child molester will violate his victim in front of "four trustworthy men", strict Sharia amounts to a free pass for sexual predators.

Islamic law rejects forensic evidence such as DNA in favor of testimony. An interesting situation thus sometimes develops in cases where a victim alleges rape but the man denies that sex even took place. In the absence of four male witnesses, rape cannot be proven. The woman's testimony then becomes a "confession" of adultery. She can even be stoned, even though the male is unpunished since he never admitted to a sexual act.

Some clerics blame rape on the woman. Australian Sheik Feiz recently said a rape victim "has no one to blame but herself. She displayed her beauty to the entire world... to tease man and appeal to his carnal nature." Even his successor, who was brought in to mitigate the backlash, compared unveiled women to "sweet pastries," tempting 'hungry' men.

One of the world's most respected Sunni scholars, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, recently told an audience on his al-Jazeera television show that "to be absolved from guilt, the raped woman must have shown some sort of good conduct."

Dr. Abd al-Aziz Fawazan al-Fawzan, a professor of Islamic law said that "if a woman gets raped walking in public alone, then she, herself is at fault. She is only seducing men by her presence. She should have stayed at home like a Muslim woman."

This was echoed by the imam of a Salafist mosque in Cologne, Germany in the wake of the shocking sex abuse rampage by recently arrived Muslims on New Year's Eve in 2015. He explained that "the events" (which included rape) "were the girls' own fault because they were half-naked and wearing perfume."

When it came to light in 2016 that a 13-year-old British girl had been abused by a dozen Pakistani rapists, certain members of the Muslim community said they believed the victim "played her part."

In 2013, Syria's chief Mufti, Sheikh Abd al-Rahman Ali al-Dala, issued a statement that gives soldiers religious permission to rape the women they capture.

There can also be no such thing as rape in a Muslim marriage, even if the husband hits the wife in order to bring about her submission. Another recent fatwa reminds a woman, she "does not have the right to refuse her husband, rather she must respond to his request every time he calls her." (Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 33597).

Keep in mind that most Muslim countries do not operate under strict Islamic law, but rather under legal codes copied from the West. Therefore rape victims in these countries can - and often do - receive justice under more reasonable standards of proof.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages ... ltery.aspx

As for a practical example of whether Islam prevents sexual abuse, my response to that is one word:
Rotherham

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 Post subject: Re: Lead Obama and Clinton fundraiser is a serial perv
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:39 pm 
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As for a practical example of whether Islam prevents sexual abuse, my response to that is one word:
Rotherham

That does blow any notion of Islam preventing sexual abuse out of the water dosen't it?

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The Weinstein scandal comes as France is stepping up the fight against sexual harassment. "Today, too often, (women) don't press charges because they don't dare to," Macron told the three journalists.

Weinstein -- accused by several women of sexual harassment, groping and rape -- was made a knight of the Legion d'Honneur, France's highest award, in 2012 in recognition of the efforts by Miramax, the company he founded with his brother Bob, to boost foreign films in the United States.

"I have taken steps to revoke the Legion d'Honneur (Legion of Honour)," Macron said in the interview aired on the TF1 TV channel.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/france-strip ... 05165.html

I wonder if the French have some sort of ceremony for stripping him of that honor?



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Clinton Foundation: We’re Not Returning Weinstein’s Money, Thank You

A spokesperson for the Clinton Foundation told DailyMail.com that the group will not return Weinstein’s donations, which totaled between $100,000 and $250,000.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:08 pm 
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Doesn't bother me at all. Money given to them in the past. They'd just be virtue signalling, like the others, if they did. Their moralizing self-righteous followers, though...

Actually the Clintonista supporters probably don't care at all. Their moralizing only applies to others with their 'do as I say, not as I do' approach. As shown, once again, with this Hollywood shit. The place that's largely filled with Democrat supporters, including Weinstein himself.

Besides, the Clinton Foundation has taken large chunks of "donations" from all kinds of shady people and organizations around the world. It's what they do. If their past methods haven't woken Clinton supporters yet, I doubt anything will.

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Another accusation against Weinstein:

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Actress Lysette Anthony Accuses Weinstein Of Rape, Scotland Yard Investigating

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Posted at 5:01 pm on October 15, 2017

Several more accusers come forward to talk about their bad experiences with Harvey Weinstein each day. English actress Lysette Anthony, best known in America for her role in the 1983 fantasy film Krull, told authorities last week that she had been raped by Weinstein in the 1980s. Her allegation seems significant for several reasons. First, she is claiming that Weinstein forced his way into her house and raped her, which is different than his usual m.o. Second, she says this happened in the mid-to-late 1980s which makes it earlier than most of the accusations we’ve heard. Third, Anthony reported the assault to the police who have referred it to Scotland Yard. She made the announcement on Twitter last week:

Continued at https://hotair.com/archives/2017/10/15/ ... stigating/

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Detroit?


Could be. Not Chicago though, those guys would probably have 40mm Bofors to use.

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This is seriously annoying. Harvey Weinstein isn't an aberration...it's simply "all men" that are the problem.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/ ... nk-so.html

Last time I checked there was some kind of rule about generalizing about entire groups of human beings.

Try these:

All muslims are terrorists

The French smell of garlic

All Italians are lazy

Women bring it on themmselves

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Last time I checked there was some kind of rule about generalizing about entire groups of human beings.




It's what the left does.

All American blacks are beat down by whitey and universally discriminated against.

That growing group of black conservatives? Well, according to the Democrat Plantation, they're not real black folks. :roll:

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https://lawnewz.com/high-profile/woman- ... er-period/

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Woman Says Harvey Weinstein Forcibly Performed Oral Sex on Her During Her Period
by Alberto Luperon | 3:10 pm, October 24th, 2017

Another woman said Tuesday that movie mogul Harvey Weinstein sexually assaulted her. Mimi Haleyi, represented by attorney Gloria Allred, said he lured her to a SoHo loft in 2006, where he backed her into what seemed to be a children’s bedroom, and forcibly performed oral sex on her. She was on her period at the time, and he pulled out her tampon during the sexual assault, she said.

According to Haleyi, he asked her, “‘Don’t you feel we’re so much closer to each other now?’ To which I replied, ‘No.'”

She said she told several friends about this story. Allred declined to comment on whether they will sue, and whether they will go to the cops about this. She suggested this may not be within the statute of limitation, but Haleyi’s allegations could still be of interest to law enforcement investigations into Weinstein.

Cops in Los Angeles, New York, and England are investigating Weinstein for sexual assault.

A New York Times report said Weinstein settled sexual harassment claims with at least eight actresses and staffers. Another article from The New Yorker said that several women alleged he sexually assaulted them. Since then, dozens of women said he sexually harassed them or worse.

Sallie Hofmeister, a Weinstein spokeswoman, has previously denied claims, saying her client “unequivocally denies allegations of non-consensual sex.” Law Newz reached out to her for comment. She dismissed this claim as well.

“Any allegations of non-consensual sex are unequivocally denied by Mr. Weinstein,” Hofmeister said in an emailed statement.

Update – Oct. 24, 7:26 p.m. EST: Added the new statement from a Weinstein spokesperson.

[Screengrab via TMZ]


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