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 Post subject: Gran Torino
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:56 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Gran Torino
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Haven't seen it.

My impression is that its one of those "angry old white man teaches young punk minorities the virtues of being white" kinda film.

Hopefully that isn't true.

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 Post subject: Re: Gran Torino
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Daves_not_here wrote:
Haven't seen it.

My impression is that its one of those "angry old white man teaches young punk minorities the virtues of being white" kinda film.

Hopefully that isn't true.


Well I suppose that if you consider being upstanding, honest, hard working, and respectful to be "white virtues", then yes...that is what this movie is about.

Personally I think those are universal virtues....but maybe I'm not hip with the PC crowd these days ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Gran Torino
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Universal values, yes.

Given Eastwood's history, surface appearances are what they are.

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 Post subject: Re: Gran Torino
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Daves_not_here wrote:
Universal values, yes.

Given Eastwood's history, surface appearances are what they are.
:o Isn't the thread about the film, not Eastwood's personal life.

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 Post subject: Re: Gran Torino
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Daves_not_here wrote:
Universal values, yes.

Given Eastwood's history, surface appearances are what they are.


What difference does his history make?

The movie is about an older generation teaching the benefits of hard work, pride, ownership, etc. etc. to the younger generation....contrasted with the gang situation where simple thuggery makes right.

It's a good film.

Racism (oddly, considering the amount of bigoted language used) is not really the issue at hand....except, possibly, to point out that there is more to bigotry than language....something that the PC crowd seems to not understand...


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 Post subject: Re: Gran Torino
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Daves_not_here wrote:
Haven't seen it.

My impression is that its one of those "angry old white man teaches young punk minorities the virtues of being white" kinda film.

Hopefully that isn't true.


One of those what?

I have never seen a movie with that plot. What have I missed?

Also, in my mind, Eastwood is the best director of the last decade or two. His movies have more real human behavior and emotion than anything I've seen without subtitles.

Unforgiven, Mystic River, Million Dollar Baby, Letters from Iwo Jima, The Changeling,

All first rate.

Have not seen Grand Torino yet but his track record is good enough for me to give it a shot.

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 Post subject: Re: Gran Torino
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Daves_not_here wrote:
Haven't seen it.

My impression is that its one of those "angry old white man teaches young punk minorities the virtues of being white" kinda film.

Hopefully that isn't true.


One of those what?

I have never seen a movie with that plot. What have I missed?


"The Karate Kid". "angry old Japanese man teaches young punk minorities the virtues of being Japanese"

"Glory". "angry old former slave teaches young punk former slaves the virtues of being Union soldiers"

These kinds of movies are everywhere. You just have to know what to look for. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Gran Torino
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jollypillager wrote:
Racism (oddly, considering the amount of bigoted language used) is not really the issue at hand....except, possibly, to point out that there is more to bigotry than language....something that the PC crowd seems to not understand...


Beer. The scene in the barber-shop illustrates that perfectly. There was a time that you could make jokes about someones ethnic orgins without them feeling the need to pick up a phone and call a lawyer to sue your arse for it. In this day and age Eastwood is making a brave stand in pointing that out.

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 Post subject: Re: Gran Torino
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3/5 kind of boring, but i liked it.

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