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 Post subject: Re: RAMBO: LAST BLOOD
PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:13 am 
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We like immigrants who come bearing gifts, whether of a material, intellectual, productive, or inspirational nature.

We dislike invaders who enter without oversight or permission and live among us simply for their own perceived benefit;


Peter Gunnarsson "Ramberg/Rambo" came to America on a ship called Calmare Nyckel, so around 1640. I'd wager the natives probably figured he came over a bit as an invader to live there for his own benefit.

Sure as hell didn't live the Native American way.... :P


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 Post subject: Re: RAMBO: LAST BLOOD
PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:46 pm 
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IIRC, Rambo in the movies is presented as half German, half Apache (being "one helluva combination") while in reality the Rambo name has a Swedish origin.

The first Rambo came over early on in the history of New Sweden. So to put Anthro's clueless "We like immigrants who come bearing gifts" into a little context; one should remember that this early colonazion of America is not the late 1800s. They didn't cross the Atlantic to be "Americans" but to establish a Swedish colony. A fair portion of these migrants thought it was a punishment. The natives (Lenape) might have liked a few gifts at first, I'm not sure - but the end result for them was being pushed out of their ancestral homeland.

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A fair portion of these migrants thought it was a punishment.
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Who would they had been? :roll:

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wulfir wrote:
IIRC, Rambo in the movies is presented as half German, half Apache (being "one helluva combination") while in reality the Rambo name has a Swedish origin.

The first Rambo came over early on in the history of New Sweden. So to put Anthro's clueless "We like immigrants who come bearing gifts" into a little context; one should remember that this early colonazion of America is not the late 1800s. They didn't cross the Atlantic to be "Americans" but to establish a Swedish colony. A fair portion of these migrants thought it was a punishment. The natives (Lenape) might have liked a few gifts at first, I'm not sure - but the end result for them was being pushed out of their ancestral homeland.

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Rambo is an American surname, variously of French (from Rambeau), German (from Rambow) or Swedish origin (supposedly ramn+bo "raven's nest"). It is now best known from the Rambo franchise, named for protagonist John J. Rambo from the novel First Blood (1972).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambo

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Morrell says that in choosing the name Rambo he was inspired by "the sound of force" in the name of Rambo apples, which he encountered in Pennsylvania. These apples, in turn, were named for Peter Gunnarsson Rambo who sailed from Sweden to America (SE Pennsylvania/Southern NJ/Northern Delaware) in the 1640s, and soon the name would flourish in New Sweden. The name Rambo was likely derived from a shortened form of Ramberget (a hill on the Hisingen island in Gothenburg, where Peter Gunnarsson was born) plus "bo" (meaning "resident of"). Today, many of his descendants can still be found in this region of the US. Morrell felt that its pronunciation was similar to the surname of Arthur Rimbaud, the title of whose most famous work A Season in Hell, seemed to him "an apt metaphor for the prisoner-of-war experiences that I imagined Rambo suffering".[6] Furthermore, an Arthur J. Rambo was an actual U.S. soldier in Vietnam, but he never returned. His name can be seen on the Vietnam War Memorial wall in Washington, DC. He was granted the first name "John" as a reference to the song "When Johnny Comes Marching Home Again".[7][8]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ra ... background


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According to the first film First Blood, Rambo's full name is John J. Rambo. He was born on July 6, 1947 in Bowie, Arizona, to an Italian father (whose name according to the last film was probably R. Rambo) and a Navajo mother Marie Drago. In Rambo: First Blood Part II, Marshall Murdock states that Rambo is of Native American and German descent. However, Morrell thought Stallone didn't look German, and made Rambo half Italian and half Navajo in the novelization.[7]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ra ... _biography

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 Post subject: Re: RAMBO: LAST BLOOD
PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:25 pm 
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Who would they had been?


Some were criminals give the option of prision or five years in America, troops who had tried to desert, Finns :D - the old man Rambo might have been a volunteer though. His wife was from Vasa. One of their sons was John Rambo - a judge...

There is a sort of protest poem from one of the Calmare Nyckel/Fågel Grip trips across the Atlantic that starts "Farwell, farwell to life and soul..."


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