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“The greatest joy a man can know is to conquer his enemies and drive them before him. To ride their horses and take away their possessions,
to see the faces of those who were dear to them bedewed with tears, and to clasp their wives and daughters in his arms [1]”
Attributed to Genghis Khan

“Men are not gentle creatures who want to be loved, and who at the most can defend themselves if they are attacked; they are, on the contrary,
creatures among whose instinctual endowments is to be reckoned a powerful share of aggressiveness. As a result, their neighbor is for them
not only a potential helper or sexual object, but also someone who tempts them to satisfy their aggressiveness on him, to exploit his capacity
for work without compensation, to use him sexually without his consent, to seize his possessions, to humiliate him, to cause him pain, to
torture and kill him. Homo homini lupus [2].”

[1] Steven Dutch, “The Mongols.” Also quoted by Conn Iggulden in the Afterword to his historical novel, Genghis: Wolf of the Plains. [Update
November 4, 2017: Steven Dutch writes: “Please modify citation 1 on the Genghis Khan quote. After being asked to find a source, I was unable
to do so. It may be apocryphal. On the other hand, the Assyrians did leave quotes richly documenting the predator ethic.
For example: http://faculty.uml.edu/ethan_Spanier/Te ... orture.pdf.]
[2] Sigmund Freud, Civilization and Its Discontents, translated & edited by James Strachey (W. W. Norton, 1961/1930), p. 58.
Homo homini lupus means Man is a wolf to man.

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