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 Post subject: The Long Road Home
PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:53 am 
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I haven't had the time to start watching this show on Nat Geo, I read a review on it which complained about it trying to push "support the troops" message giving it 40/100.

Meanwhile it has 7,5 on IMDB and 80 Metacritic reviews and 5.5 user score.

I'll write what I think once I'll find time to watch. I hope it won't be just about "boohoo, daddy's going away", syrup and tears.


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 Post subject: Re: The Long Road Home
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Watched the two episode start, so far it seems worth watching, definitely going to see more of it.

1st Cavalry is just rotating a fresh batch of guys into Sadr City, which is known for being especially peaceful. What I understood, they didn't even have all of their armor with them and are talking about it being a peacekeeping mission.

Incidentally, the merged two first episodes starter was titled 'Black Sunday'.

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Watched third episode.

I am liking this series. I just wish I knew if this is realistic or not. Can't wait to see episode 4, airing in a couple of days on Nat Geo.




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It focuses heavily not just on combat but also on the women back at home, how they support each other and so and not in a condemning or strawman style but as patriotic decent honest folks just trying to do their best while facing difficult situations.

Even some of the Iraqis they encounter like the Americans while others are anti-American. There's a guy who says that he felt free for the first time when they toppled the Saddam's statue.

Insurgents use inhumane tactics such as children as lookouts for their infantry, such as an unarmed little girl serving as spotter for a rifleman and another small boy engaging the Americans with an AK and the impact of being forced to fight children on the troops.

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It does not perpetuate the myth of all black infantry units. The ethnic make up of the troop is realistic.

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I worry there will be leftist propaganda mixed in with the straight tale, NPR and National Geographic do that.

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I worry there will be leftist propaganda mixed in with the straight tale, NPR and National Geographic do that.

Old age paranoia. Visit VA specialist ASAP. ;)

Though I hope it is just old timer racism. :lol:

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abradley wrote:
I worry there will be leftist propaganda mixed in with the straight tale, NPR and National Geographic do that.

Old age paranoia. Visit VA specialist ASAP. ;)

Though I hope it is just old timer racism. :lol:


Internet dumbass syndrome, exacerbated by old age assholitis.

But yeah, Abrad is correct: Nat Geo does blend in leftist agenda messages, and NPR is strictly of that ilk. It is what happens when your hiring and promoting practices discriminate against people who are not card carrying neo-Marxists, much like intelligentsia and most legacy media at this stage.

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 Post subject: Re: The Long Road Home
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Well, nero is an expert on Iraq and can correct if some veteran makes false claims. You know, silly Americans, they don't know what they saw and what they're talking about. All their veterans have PTSD, they're also racist and constantly lying and on the verge of going postal. Don't listen to them, ask someone who really knows the stuff, like nero.

Also, he doesn't need to actually watch Nat Geo, he will know what it's like and what narrative and political agenda it's owners have without watching.

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As for propaganda, I didn't yet personally yet identify any so far. This series is by the way created by Mikko Alanne, who was a writer in '5 Days of War' and who was also going to have a huge role in the Mannerheim movie that collected millions of funding which somehow magically disappeared resulting in the movie about the greatest Finn and champion of Finland's independence never being shot, despite bountiful funding by the greater public through fundraisers.

5 Days of War certainly didn't have a leftist propaganda message hidden in it, that's for sure. Quite the opposite, it called out Russia and their invasion for what they were while leftists in West sided with Russia's narrative of events.

So far in The Long Road Home I've only seen what appear to be your average Army infantry mostly without any combat experience being rotated to Iraq wherein they receive mixed messages from the populace itself.

Or how many leftist war movies have you seen where the locals thank the Americans for ridding them of their dictator?

If this turns out to be relatively propaganda free, it is ironic that America's entertainment industry is so commie-oriented that you need to reach back to Finland to find someone who calls things for how they are.

But the jury is still out with this one.

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There's no scenes about Americans stealing the poor Iraqi's oil. Stormtroopers should be shown breaking down doors and running away with buckets of oil. And what about transgender war heroes? Bradley Manning hasn't even been mentioned.

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There's no scenes about Americans stealing the poor Iraqi's oil. Stormtroopers should be shown breaking down doors and running away with buckets of oil. And what about transgender war heroes? Bradley Manning hasn't even been mentioned.


Oh yea, there's no snappy 18 year old girl with hand crafted "I win all arguments" lines while taking photos of the dead child soldiers after the guns have been removed in order to lose the home front and make all those sacrifices be lost in vain, running her mouth to the officers while the minority grunts side with her and are looking for a way out while the white Alabaman sergeant is going all commissaar on them.

It's so degenerate that the various privates, NCOs and officers are the lead characters each having an episode in the limelight - and not just the man but also the wife and kids at home, showing how being at war is a family effort.

Weird. Everyone knows the stormtrooper pigs have no families and they're just waiting for a zombie apocalypse so they can establish a harsh military junta under the guise of declaring state of emergency. Since because they don't have families or any other ties to the community they claim to serve they don't have any obstacles to using violence against civilians.

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