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 Post subject: Military Science Fiction Booklist
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:37 pm 
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Military Science Fiction Booklist
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Version 2.1 (30 December 2012)

Standard for inclusion in this list:

Military Operations etc are one of the primary objectives that the book revolves around, or a significant portion; rather than being a mere fifteen page section in the middle of a 400 page magnum opus.

I have chosen to exclude novels from mass-media franchises like Star Trek, Star Wars, Halo, Warhammer 40K, etc; because they are easily findable and generally unoriginal.

I have also tried to exclude niche publishers and e-book publications for this list, since I am unsure of their longevity – the market for them is in a very constant state of flux. They're only counted when they are a continuation of an existing series, like Genellan and Antares.

Also, they just are of a lower quality. Publishers do a lot more than the average reader realizes. They act as a weeder to eliminate most of the totally derivative concepts we've seen a hundred times before and they ensure that the novel is grammatically correct. Nothing ruins the reader's enjoyment faster than bad grammar or mis-spellings.

There's the occasional gem in the rough, but you really have to work to find it.

Word of Warning:

The people who tend to write or read military science fiction lean towards the right end of the political spectrum.

This is not surprising, because Military Science fiction is basically about sentient beings, both human and non-human being blown up, lasered, vaporized, and generally killed in many creative and horrible ways in the FUTURE™.

As Rutger Hauer said in Blade Runner:

“I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate.”

The problem comes when the writer's politics, whether left or right; begin to bleed through into the book itself.


One good example is David Weber's works.

In the Starfire novels, essentially every Good Guy™ was in the military, and a lot of the Bad Guys™ were politicians. The only exceptions were ex-military men who took up careers in politics.

In the early Honorverse novels, there were no left-leaning politicians who were portrayed as even competent. This changed when Eric Flint, who was once a member of the Socialist Workers' Party became a somewhat co-writer of a segment of the Honorverse and introduced some left-leaning characters who weren't stupid.

That said...Weber for all his faults, managed to keep that political bleed-through under control.

What?

Yes. There can be worse.
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 Post subject: Re: Military Science Fiction Booklist
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“I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate....”

One of my fav Sci-fi quotes of all time. Very poignant. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Military Science Fiction Booklist
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Not happy with the list, he's censoring out any outright right wing tales.

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That said...Weber for all his faults, managed to keep that political bleed-through under control.

What?

Yes. There can be worse.

I give you Michael Z. Williamson, Tom Kratman and John Ringo.

I'm considered a very right wing poster on message boards that I hang out in, and those three authors' concentrated insanity is just too much for me to handle.

So I've enacted a ban on their work(s). Your sanity will save you.

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Use those three for your starting point, especially Kratman, he's had years of Military experience and uses it in his writing.

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 Post subject: Re: Military Science Fiction Booklist
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The list was shallow and incomplete and the annotations shallower and written by stupid people.

Armor by John Steakly was an outstanding novel.
The Forever War by Joe Haldeman had two follow-up novels.
All My Sins Remembered also by Joe Haldeman is military/cold war-esque.
Starship Troopers by Robert Heinlein is possibly even cheesier than the movie, and the movie was almost pure cheese.
No mention of David Gerrold?

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MILITARY SCIENCE FICTION ON TOR.COM
Unity Against The Storm: A Hymn Before Battle by John Ringo

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Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:00am 16 comments Favorite This

The good news: Mankind has finally made contact with an alien race.
The bad news: The aliens who’ve approached us are engaged in a losing war against a much more aggressive, nigh-unstoppable race known as the Posleen. The worse news: Our planet is right in the path of the Posleen onslaught.
The “it gets better” news: The galactic community is willing to share their knowledge, technology, and tactical support. To a degree. And it’ll cost us heavily.
The “we’re screwed” news: Our supposed allies are virtually incapable of fighting or aggression, and the real reason they want us is because we’re a violent bunch of barely-evolved monkeys with itchy trigger fingers. Moreover, they’re hoping to exploit us in much more subtle ways. They want us to do the dirty work. Good thing we’re up to the challenge.

Thus begins the Posleen War series, which marked the start of John Ringo’s prolific and popular career, and thoroughly established him as a military science fiction writer worth watching. While the series has spawned a good twelve books in as many years, many written with various co-authors, I’m just going to take a look at how it all began.


A Hymn Before Battle starts off at a fairly slow burn, as Ringo sets things into motion and introduces the first batch of major players. First, you have Michael O’Neal, a web consultant and SF author who’s one of the very first to be recalled to active duty when the true scope of the threat facing us becomes evident. Strong, intelligent, forceful, experienced, adaptable and packing a dominant personality, he’s pretty much the epitome of the perfect Ringo hero, able to kick all sorts of ass and look good doing it. Next, you have Gunnery Sergeant Ernie Pappas, an aging soldier brought out of retirement and rejuvenated to the prime of his life, to help train the new influx of recruits. Then there’s Sergeant Major Jacob Mosovich, a black ops specialist assigned to take a recon team to an alien planet in search of information. While the cast is sprawling, these three men get the most attention, as their respective plots unfold.

On Earth, we watch as humanity prepares for the imminent invasion, scheduled to hit a mere five years away. From mobilizing troops to fortifying cities and creating fortified shelters, from developing new technology to dealing with their new allies, they prepare for an assault that will undoubtedly be a bloodbath and a disaster. On the swampy world of Barwhon V, Mosovich’s team works to gain vital intelligence regarding the Posleen. On the beleaguered planet of Diess IV, human forces stand against the Posleen onslaught, testing out their brand-new Armored Combat Suits in a do-or-die trial by fire. While the war has just begun, it’s these opening moments which will define the course of things to come.

Ringo has some real strengths, which stand out even here in his debut. He’s a whiz at describing military action in convincing and captivating ways, putting the reader right into the heart of the battle. His real life experiences as a member of the U.S. Army lend themselves well towards this sort of thing, as he’s able to get into the military mindset. We get to see things from a variety of angles, through a host of characters, from privates to generals (but mostly focusing on those somewhere in the middle, as seen by the characters discussed above). There’s that level of authenticity that really sells the story.
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https://www.tor.com/2012/01/23/unity-ag ... ohn-ringo/

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 Post subject: Re: Military Science Fiction Booklist
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Just finished 'Hymn before battle.' Ringo writes some good stuff, the bad guys 'Posleens' are something else, eat everything in sight (literally) like a medieval army living off the land as they march through.

The good guy and his suits manage to slow them down in a Guadalcanal (Slaughter) like battle in first contact, the book ends with a whole series of books following.

There's an interesting looking book... Tuloriad co authored by Ringo and Kratman
https://www.amazon.com/Tuloriad-Legacy- ... bc?ie=UTF8
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yes-that's a Swiss Guard on the book cover, I understand the earth has been the final battle and now resembles the aftermath of the 30 years war, except much, much worse. The Posleens have been reduced to 300-400 God Kings who are attempting to escape humans looking for revenge.

But an old man 'the Pope' decides to convert them (Posleens).

Interesting twist!

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 Post subject: Re: Military Science Fiction Booklist
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Gust Front, Second Edition (Legacy of the Aldenata Book 2) Kindle Edition
https://www.amazon.com/Gust-Front-Secon ... bc?ie=UTF8

The aliens had arrived

With gifts, warnings, and an offer we
couldn't refuse....

Our choice was simple: we could be cannon fodder, or we could be ... fodder. We could send our forces to fight and die (as only humans can) against a ravening horde that was literally feeding on its interstellar conquests—or remain as we were—virtually weaponless and third in line for brunch.

We chose to fight.

Thanks to alien technology and sheer guts, the Terrans on two worlds fought the Posleen to a standstill. Thank God there was a moment to catch our breath, a moment, however brief, of peace—.

Now, for the survivors of the Barwhon and Diess Expeditionary Forces, it was a chance to get some distance from the blood and misery of battle against the Posleen centaurs. A blessed chance to forget the screams of the dying in purple swamps and massacres under searing alien suns.

For Earth it was an opportunity to flesh out their force of raw recruits with combat-seasoned veterans. Political, military and scientific blundering had left the Terran forces in shambles-and with the Posleen Invasion only months away, these shell-shocked survivors might be the only people capable of saving the Earth from devastation.

If the veterans had time to lick their wounds.

Because the Posleen don't read schedules.

At the publisher's request, this title is sold without DRM (Digital Rights Management).
Two plans to fight the invasion, which do you think is chosen?

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 Post subject: Re: Military Science Fiction Booklist
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Appreciate the links and tips!


Leftoid "military fiction" usually involves large numbers of people just swarming their opposition with bayonets and closing in for close combat, while fighting for diversity. Ring any bells?

Then there was the Planet of the Apes anti-humanism; human race is evil, it would be better if social apes took over.

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I expect I'll be reading read the rest of the series, the I'll try the Cally series.

From the reader's reviews at amazon: .
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3 out of 5 starsStill working my way through it
ByNight Hawkon September 24, 2015
Format: Kindle Edition|Verified Purchase
I'm having trouble finishing this book. While reading it, I have also finished 3 Jim Butcher Dresden books, a couple of non-fiction, and a historical book. I keep going back to it, though, as I enjoyed the Posleen books by John Ringo.

I think the book is better if I do not try and compare it to the previous Posleen books. This is completely different, from a very different perspective. This is more about what life is like some years after the end of the Posleen war. It's almost like an eyewitness account of what people do in their daily lives after the war, how the country is functioning, what is going on with those underground Urbs and the people in them, etc.

And the Cally we knew so well in the earlier books is long gone. She is now (grown up)++ and is an assassin. A lot of time is spent on how she will switch personalities, costumes, appearances, all kinds of things that she does to go undercover. And there is a long part where we have to deal with, like, surfer dude speak maaaaan. You don't know what i'm sayin, you know what i'm sayin? Argghhhh i'm glad to be apparently past that part.

This is not necessarily bad, but it is not the rollicking adventure that I was expecting. I'm going to keep plodding through, but at about the half way point, I haven't really found the hook of the story yet.
I understand it opens with sex and more sex.

The idea behind Cally's 3 books is interesting, undercover, trying to find the bad guy that screwed up the human war plans.

The first in the series get a 3 star rating, but the following books are back to 4 stars.

Expect the first's bad reviews caused some changes in the follow on books style.

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