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 Post subject: Re: History on the History Channel (Vikings (TV 2013 -) et a
PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:21 am 
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Well.. some have long believed that they explored as far west as the Great Lakes, via the St Lawrence River route, or even further to the Mississippi or Missouri Rivers from there. The little supporting physical evidence is very questionable stuff, though.

While the coastline expansion is obvious, and would be far easier, the big question is how far inland they may have gone. I'd think they probably wouldn't go too far from interconnected bodies of water due to supply reasons and an ever-increasing chance of being attacked by natives the further they ventured.

The life span of the small outpost at Lans'eau Meadows was also very short IIRC, so unless there were others established on the coast, their explorations only happened in that span of time where they had a base of operations to return to. If they found a new outpost, then the big question is how long it lasted. Was it concurrent with Lans'eau or a replacement outpost?

On top of all this, there are the ancient tales about the Welsh & Irish also having visited NA earlier than that, although there's no hard evidence.

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 Post subject: Re: History on the History Channel (Vikings (TV 2013 -) et a
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Given that one of their principle motives was finding riches to plunder or perhaps trade, I imagine North America was a huge disappointment. A crew of a long ship was not primarily interested in settlements, and a voyage of that length without significant "enrichment" would have been a serious morale problem.

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Given that one of their principle motives was finding riches to plunder or perhaps trade, I imagine North America was a huge disappointment. A crew of a long ship was not primarily interested in settlements, and a voyage of that length without significant "enrichment" would have been a serious morale problem.


The Sagas say they briefly traded with some natives. But I doubt they found much value in trade with a stone age society.

Also - the natives inevitably started attacking them. The most likely reason they didn't stick around for too long, there already being a bunch of people there.

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Given that one of their principle motives was finding riches to plunder or perhaps trade, I imagine North America was a huge disappointment. A crew of a long ship was not primarily interested in settlements, and a voyage of that length without significant "enrichment" would have been a serious morale problem.


The principal motive for many Vikings may have been plunder, but I don't believe that was the case for all Vikings.
Given the distance from "plunder worthy" targets, could one say that the Viking settlements in Iceland and particularly Greenland were positioned for plundering? And the same could probably be said for trading opportunities for the Icelandic and Greenland settlements.

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Gump wrote:
Given that one of their principle motives was finding riches to plunder or perhaps trade, I imagine North America was a huge disappointment. A crew of a long ship was not primarily interested in settlements, and a voyage of that length without significant "enrichment" would have been a serious morale problem.


The principal motive for many Vikings may have been plunder, but I don't believe that was the case for all Vikings.
Given the distance from "plunder worthy" targets, could one say that the Viking settlements in Iceland and particularly Greenland were positioned for plundering? And the same could probably be said for trading opportunities for the Icelandic and Greenland settlements.



I was led to believe that the few who went to Greenland were often the banished and outcast types, along with some financially desperate perhaps.

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A rather long piece on the possible fate of the Vikings in Greenland:

The Fate of Greenland's Vikings

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The Vikings: At Least It’s Not Aliens on the History Channel
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In 2013, the History Channel debuted a Canadian-Irish tv series, The Vikings, starring Travis Fimmel at Ragnar Lothbrok and Katheryn Winnick as his wife Lagertha. While the series has some problems, it’s a significant step up from the History Channel’s traditional “ancient buildings were produced by aliens” programming. There’s both good and bad things to say about the series, and there’s enough that I plan to do several posts about it.
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You jinxed it. S04 is continuing with a dud. Some dudes all shag the same maid, Lagertha is a Lesbian. That's seriously the plot of the first ep after the hiatus. :x

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You jinxed it. S04 is continuing with a dud. Some dudes all shag the same maid, Lagertha is a Lesbian. That's seriously the plot of the first ep after the hiatus. :x



I thought the writing started wallowing in the previous season, or the end of the one before.

Was bound to happen at some point.

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