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 Post subject: Re: More news from a the people's paradise.....
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I never knew Chi was a lesbian - thanks for the update !!!
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... ... lesbians.


I never knew Chi was a lesbian - thanks for the update !!!
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I have been thinking that Chi is a man. :shock:

But he is, he can not be a lesbian; by the defintion. Ask your wife. ;)

Though some alpha++ males think that they can fix the lesbian perversion, both on same time, à trois. :lol:

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... vote-ahead

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Venezuelan Soldiers Desert in Droves With Presidential Election Ahead

By Fabiola Zerpa and Noris Soto
May 7, 2018, 5:42 PM EDT

    Shorthanded army is charged with overseeing May 20 election
    Retirees have been recalled as officers flee the country

Military officers are joining the exodus of Venezuelans to Colombia and Brazil, fleeing barracks and forcing President Nicolas Maduro’s government to call upon retirees and militia to fill the void.

High desertion rates at bases in Caracas and the countryside are complicating security plans for the presidential election in 13 days, which by law require military custody of electoral materials and machinery at voting centers.


“The number is unknown because it used to be published in the Official Gazette. Now, it is not,” said Rocio San Miguel, director of Control Ciudadano, a military watchdog group in Caracas. She said soldiers are fleeing for the same reason citizens are: “Wages are low, the quality of food and clothing isn’t good.”

Last week, officers who rank as high as general were called in and quartered for several days at their units. Retired officials and militia members were also contacted by their superiors, according to one retired officer who asked not to be named for fear of angering the regime. Government officials are training these fill-in personnel for the election, said a second retired officer.

The shortage of troops comes as hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans flee a societal collapse, crowding cities and makeshift camps throughout the region in the largest mass emigration in modern Latin American history. Hyperinflation has made the currency virtually worthless, and malnutrition is endemic. Almost 2 million Venezuelans are living outside the country.

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As the once-prosperous nation fell apart, Maduro consolidated power by creating an all-powerful assembly to bypass the national legislature. The regime jailed and banned opponents and launched a wave of arrests before the May 20 vote. The U.S. and regional organizations have refused to recognize the balloting as legitimate, and the main opposition coalition has promised a boycott in the face of what it says will be a rigged contest.

Venezuelan elections are overseen by its military, the strongest force in the country and one increasingly intertwined with Maduro’s regime. The rush to fill out units is required by the so-called Plan Republica, the security deployment of the Defense Ministry that begins on the eve of election day and lasts until the day after. By law, the armed forces are guarantors of peace and security, guarding ballots and voting machines at all 14,000-odd voting sites. They transport these materials and machinery to each voting center, often a school, and guard it.

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But the level of desertion from the Fuerza Armada Nacional Bolivariana has grown exponentially in the last year, especially among troops at lower ranks. At least 10,000 soldiers have asked to retire, Control Ciudadano’s San Miguel said in March.

“Since 2015 there has been an increase in military detainees accused of treason, desertion and other crimes,” she said. “Our estimate is that there are 300 people who are imprisoned, mostly troops. A few are senior officers, others are civilians linked to the military.”

A spokesman for the armed forces didn’t immediately reply to a request for comment on the desertions.


High-ranking members of the military are barred from much contact with the lower ranks . Lines of young military men asking for retirement are long, said the first retired officer. The officer tried to chat with one, but officers running the barracks forbade them from talking to each other. The retiree said top officers fear too much conversation will permit officers and enlisted solders to form alliances for a coup.

“Those who ask to retire are put into arrest for a week at the military counterintelligence headquarters,” said Gonzalo Himiob, director of Foro Penal, a human-rights group. “That’s how worried the government is.”

He said most leave the country after they are released. Himiob said that so many have tried to resign in recent days that the regime has no room to jail them, and many are allowed to quit.


Well that doesn't sound good for Marudo and his band of socialists.

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Even John Oliver is going off on Maduro:



although he is an idiot if he believes that socialism has nothing to do with Venezuela's problems. :roll:

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Even John Oliver is going off on Maduro:
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although he is an idiot if he believes that socialism has nothing to do with Venezuela's problems. :roll:


I see a lot of Lefties claiming Venezuela's problems aren't due to their runaway socialist state. Despite the Venezuelan government steadily confiscating private property and business, and implementing it's top-down economic control, ever since Chavez initiated the practice.

The decline is pretty much directly inline with these hard socialist moves to nationalize the private wealth in Venezuela. It's a perfect example of denial if they can't admit to it. I'm not surprised since the hard left socialists often appear to have no clue about basic economics.

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All those hard socialists in denial. :lol:


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chijohnaok wrote:
Even John Oliver is going off on Maduro:
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although he is an idiot if he believes that socialism has nothing to do with Venezuela's problems. :roll:


I see a lot of Lefties claiming Venezuela's problems aren't due to their runaway socialist state. Despite the Venezuelan government steadily confiscating private property and business, and implementing it's top-down economic control, ever since Chavez initiated the practice.

The decline is pretty much directly inline with these hard socialist moves to nationalize the private wealth in Venezuela. It's a perfect example of denial if they can't admit to it. I'm not surprised since the hard left socialists often appear to have no clue about basic economics.


It's the same as with Soviet Union - the economy grew when they took food from Ukrainians and (starving them by the millions in the process) sold the food and bought machinery.

Or when they invaded lands and confiscated machinery, see eastern Europe and their excursion to China. Pretty desperate to go to China to loot industrial machines but I wasn't around to offer advise to them.

Every time we see a spike in Soviet GDP - and then it flatlines and starts to sink.

Why?

There's no benefit to anyone to make things efficient - economic!

Towards the end they recognized that their economy wasn't economic and instated a national motto of "economy must be economical". But they never figured out how to.

The much advertised Soviet spirit of continuing to use "cheap pencils in space" as opposed to "American expenditure of inventing new better things" - this whole mindset is inherent to socialists.

When you run out of other people's money you go bankrupt. And they had the entire eastern Europe supposedly geared up to support Russia but due to complete stagnation and corruption of economicality of the economy they ended up with the diminishing returns problem.

"Gee, we've been using the same exact process for 50 years now and it starts to seem like it's no longer producing the same amount of excess output as it used to".

Let's take a look at where industrial revolution and rise in the living standards of the working class really started from - UK.

Chinese had invented mass scale steel and iron production thousands of years earlier, India too was leading in technology all the way to 18th century. But they never got around to having an industrial revolution.

Subsistence agriculture based society.

What did the UK do differently? Land enclosure. All farming land across the world tended to often be common land, you'd have your neighbor move his sheep across your patch trampling your produce, you couldn't grow stuff like turnips because it would impede with the ability of your neighbors to traverse on your patch of field. And very often the produce was shared collectively, more or less or at least you had a shit ton of farm hands to feed.

What did the land enclosure change?

Suddenly you could buy land and fence it off if you could afford to. The rich of course could better achieve this but it also encouraged middle class farmers and the top level poor farmers to save money or loan money to fence off their own private farm. And this meant their neighbors could not come mess with their produce - their produce was for them to use or sell as they personally saw fit.

Suddenly people are trying to live tight and save money to invest into better farming equipment and other investments such as better storages, machinery etc. because they saw that the more excess they produced the more they could sell and the more they could expand their farmland and further improve yield while also being able to sack laborers who became obsolete as productivity soared.

And since people could not come trample your crops they could adopt the four cycle crop rotation involving turnips, eliminating fallow.

Suddenly farmers are able to feed themselves and sell excess produce for profit and it profits them to further improve productivity.

And all the now unneeded farmhands travel to cities, ready to accept any work to be able to buy bread. Thus the early industrialization had all the labor available at low cost that it could hope for.


And so, land enclosure, removing common rights to land etc. and forcing people to accept work while allowing people to profit from their property led to industrial revolution which after initially lowering living standards and life expectancy quickly matured after the initial transitional period and led to the increase in wealth and living standards that has continued to this day.

And it's all based on personal profit, not some notion that you must work hard for the collective and having some committee or bureau of career politicians decide whether a factory needs to continue, upgrade or be shut down.

For some reason politicians elected solely on the basis of ideology tend to suck at economics and by sucking I mean they tend to cause complete corruption and failure of the entire economy to the extent that Soviets for one had their crops literally rot before they reached the consumers and in general no one made a single cent of profit from trying to make things like farming or steel production run more economically.

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