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 Post subject: Re: Britain Should Not Have Fought in the First World War
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:21 pm 
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The Wrong Pope Francis would not agree.

But have you seen this?


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 Post subject: Re: Britain Should Not Have Fought in the First World War
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Not seen the show, but saw a trailer w/comments, at first it looked interesting but IIRC it headed off into a hard core liberal view.

Enjoyed this:

Until the end where he gives the church's property to the Chinese poor, would be great if it would cure the problem of poverty, it would only feed the poor temporarily and then your back into the same problem.

Who was it Bon Jovi (?) who said; 'Capitalism does more good in Africa then the handouts.' or something like that.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain Should Not Have Fought in the First World War
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abradley wrote:
Not seen the show, but saw a trailer w/comments, at first it looked interesting but IIRC it headed off into a hard core liberal view.

Enjoyed this:

Until the end where he gives the church's property to the Chinese poor, would be great if it would cure the problem of poverty, it would only feed the poor temporarily and then your back into the same problem.

Who was it Bon Jovi (?) who said; 'Capitalism does more good in Africa then the handouts.' or something like that.

Too long.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain Should Not Have Fought in the First World War
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abradley wrote:
Your vid was a bore and didn't supply any new info.


I thought the debate was conducted in a fairly humorous fashion. 8-)

And I'd say the basic question - of Britain (at all) fighting in WW1 - is pretty unusual...


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Imagine if the Romanov's had not lost; if Tsarist Russia had persisted through to the 1930s . . . mind-boggling to imagine.

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Imagine if the Romanov's had not lost; if Tsarist Russia had persisted through to the 1930s . . . mind-boggling to imagine.

And then lost to Hitler. :shock:

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Imagine if the Romanov's had not lost; if Tsarist Russia had persisted through to the 1930s . . . mind-boggling to imagine.

And then lost to Hitler. :shock:


Yeah, that does seem likely doesn't it! :P Apparently Nicky wasn't the most inspired leader. But who knows, maybe his kid would have been better!?

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Most historians blame the Krauts and the Austrians for starting the war after all they lost ... but I am in the "Sazonov did it" school of thought ... I even blame the Brits more than most ... the issue with the Brits was, most folks expected them to stay out ... and acted accordingly ... hecque ... even the Brits expected the Brits to stay out ... until they surprised themselves and decided not to ... so their contribution to the starting part was they confused everyone with their intentions ...

Most of the "leaders" were clueless bumblers ... but there were plenty of "hawks" in the underling groups ...

The old order (the monarchies) had to fall into dust one way or the other ... the 19C had ended them ... they just hadn't disappeared yet ... so WWI got it done .. snip snap bang boom ... just a whole bunch of young guys mostly ... had to die in the process ... and that is pretty sad ...

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Always wondered how it might have went if the Germans had just left Belgium alone. Would the Brits came in then?

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nelmsm wrote:
Always wondered how it might have went if the Germans had just left Belgium alone. Would the Brits came in then?

This is actually a good question.

But the German war plans mandated to win France first, and while the French had no Maginot like 1914, their border against Germany quite heavily fortified. So the attack through Belgium was an attempt to outflank fortified, hard object. With situation of two front war, Germans calculated that against France a quick victory was attainable while being defensive against Russia.

I am not aware how fortified the German west border against France was 1914, but never main that. The interesting question is what if Germany would have been on defense in the west, and decided to take Russia first. What they eventually managed to do.

If Britain went to war because of Belgium, then Britain would stayed out in the Russia first scenario.

Then I have to assume that you didn't watch the video, et tu, Brute?

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