How Badly Has the Bible Been Corrupted?
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Author:  Anthropoid [ Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:55 pm ]
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No idea about anything said already. But it is pretty striking that a religion in which "God" is portrayed as (a) a single dude (instead of a pantheon of dudes and dudettes); (b) who "LOVES" people, came along when it did, and despite being regarded as ridiculous heresy by every well-established religious and political group in the Mediterranean at the time, managed to not only SURVIVE (as did Judaism and quite a few other older religions . . . at least for a time) but THRIVE, expand, and eventually TAKE OVER the pagan Empire which had previously been its primary oppressor!

Tells me there is something more appealing in Christianity than in any of the other flavors it was competing with at the time.

Certainly hard to imagine the Renaissance and Age of Enlightenment and rise of secular humanism and contemporary science in a Judaic, Islamic or pagan framework. Arguably couldn't have happened within a strictly Catholic framework either . . . Seems that, in many respects, Christianity became that which it was originally formed to fight against, but then the reformation fixed that by some degree . . . subsequent "secular" and semi-secular movements and developments have furthered that "progress" which the Jesus cult originally set in motion.

Author:  abradley [ Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:08 pm ]
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About 35:00 he describes ancient religions.

Baylor ISR
Published on Jun 17, 2014
Neglect and Dedication: The Dynamics of Ancient Religious Markets Par 1 of 4 - The Market Approach to Understanding Religion

and "The Triumph of Christianity: How the Jesus Movement Became the World's Largest Religion Paperback – November 6, 2012
by Rodney Stark (Author) ... 47VCSD0FMQ

Have read this book, it and the Ehrman book addresses you questions.

Author:  abradley [ Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: How Badly Has the Bible Been Corrupted?

The above post is a mess, the info is in there but needs digging.

I'll try to explain how the Christians went from 20 people to 20 million(?) in 300 years.

Prior to Christianity civilization was brutal, most if not all was based on male domination, in quite a few societies the father/husband had life and death control over the family. This includes Roman.

At the time of Jesus Rome was having a population decline problem, on top of that they often put female babies out to die in the elements, Christians would collect these babies and raise them as Christians. Like China today Rome didn't have enough pagan females for their male population so they married the surplus Christian gals, you won't believe this but those gals subverted Roman Paganism from within.

On top of that, when a plague struck the Romans deserted the sick, the Christians cared for the sick, a la Jesus' good Samaritan. This added more converts and their families.

A Pagan woman was inferior to the male, not the case for Christians, all humans were equal.

Basically the Christians had the woman vote.

There's a lot more to it then this but IMHO this is a big part.

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