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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:43 am 
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This isn't academia, this is mental illness at best, deliberate obscurantism at worst.

Mentalists.

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Anything could be true. The so-called laws of Nature were nonsense. The law of gravity was nonsense. 'If I wished,' O'Brien had said, 'I could float off this floor like a soap bubble.' Winston worked it out. 'If he thinks he floats off the floor, and if I simultaneously think I see him do it, then the thing happens.' Suddenly, like a lump of submerged wreckage breaking the surface of water, the thought burst into his mind: 'It doesn't really happen. We imagine it. It is hallucination.' He pushed the thought under instantly. The fallacy was obvious. It presupposed that somewhere or other, outside oneself, there was a 'real' world where 'real' things happened. But how could there be such a world? What knowledge have we of anything, save through our own minds? All happenings are in the mind. Whatever happens in all minds, truly happens.

Oceania isn't far away with these loons.

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Those loons have no influence, no power and no money; in comparison with climate change deniers. ;)

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This isn't academia, this is mental illness at best, deliberate obscurantism at worst.


I agree. Oddly this is the second time today I have heard that fatuous phrase "Decolonizing education." Regrettably, my baccalaureate alma mater hired an archaeologist who is an enthusiastic Critical Race Theory zealot and is hosting a conference on decolonizing education.

Fucking lunatics is ALL that they are. 100% nuts.

Science is the MOST valid way of knowing things because it is the ONLY way that does not prejudge the outcome of research based on the ethnicity or world view of the person asking the question. These Social Justice Warriors are basically arguing that positions founded on cultural beliefs have equal merit with rational inquiry. They're wrong. Worse still, these are the idiots whose philosophy, if taken seriously, gives credibilty to holocaust deniers or anyone else who simply wishes to ignore facts.

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nero wrote:
Those loons have no influence, no power and no money; in comparison with climate change deniers. ;)

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Obviously not, given the apology that was extracted, and the success of such movements in universities across the western world.

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Apparently the scratching off of science video is from s.Africa. Sort of explains the context. An entire continent of activists suffering from delusion. AWA!

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Apparently the scratching off of science video is from s.Africa. Sort of explains the context. An entire continent of activists suffering from delusion. AWA!


It does. They were using witchcraft to 'cure' HIV back under Mbeki...

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Apparently the scratching off of science video is from s.Africa. Sort of explains the context. An entire continent of activists suffering from delusion. AWA!


It does. They were using witchcraft to 'cure' HIV back under Mbeki...

Not to mention the cure involving virgins. Especially albino virgins were/are considered very potent cure for AIDS. :twisted:

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Not to mention the cure involving virgins. Especially albino virgins were/are considered very potent cure for AIDS. :twisted:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manto_Tshabalala-Msimang

Educated in the Soviet Union.

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The witchcraft case is an interesting tool to use against the antiscience people. In the USA, accusations of witchcraft among native americans have historically been VERY serious and still are very serious. In the past, a star chamber would evaluate the accusation and if found meritorious, kill the accused. Frank Hamilton Cushing documented on particularly interesting case in his book Zuni.

Just like western world witchcraft accusations, among Native Americans the accusation if one can find out anything at all seems to always be made against people who rock the boat POLITICALLY. There are, even among indigenes, powerful clans/kinship groups and those with less power. The material outcomes of benefiting from membership in the right clan include access to more productive lands and waters, broader access to tribal wealth among those tribes now recognized by Uncle Sugar etc. The differential benefits precede the coming of the USA or even the Spaniards by many hundreds of years. Witchcraft accusations, and the knowledge systems that underly them, are indiginous knowledge systems designed primarily to enforce social domination and subjugation. And yet, it is the "decolonization" philosophers who want to promote such knowledge systems all the while claiming opposition to subjugation.

The plain fact is that if we take "decolonization" of knowledge seriously and dismiss science, then any logical rationale for NOT embracing policies to promote the extermination of anyone who isn't a member of your tribe disappear. Want to justify the Trail of Tears rather than criticize Jackson? All you need to do is argue that Jackson's policies were a justified rebuttal of the western scientific institutions such as the US Constitution that tried to prevent Jackson's efforts. In that world view, the Holocaust is just another reasonable rejection of science. Global Warming Denialism is just another reasonable rejection of science. Anti-pollution laws are just the usual scientific colonization of politics colonizing and suppressing the instincts of corporate capitalists.

Absent science, one can pretty much justify any horrible thing they want to do on the basis of their own cultural knowledge and traditions.

Science put an end to western witchcraft accusations. I hope science can put an end to Critical Theory, which is just the usual witchcraft accusations minus the power (yet) to summarily execute the accused.

By the way. These asses are reason number 20 for people to own firearms.

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