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You are a character Sneer! Easily half of your contributions on this board (several thousand posts at least!) are digressions or tangents to other people's threads with a theme from a limited selection of alternatives: (a) slam "right wingers" or conservatives; (b) slam the United States or American culture/government/society; (c) tout your own merits; (d) slam abrad for one reason or another; (e) misconstrue humor.

Another 1/3 to 1/2 of your posts are complaining about people taking YOUR threads off-topic! :lol:

You're like a cartoon bulletin board villain; almost so consistently 'evil' that you are comical!

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Death Spiral Demographics: The Countries Shrinking The Fastest

Joel Kotkin , Contributor
I cover demographic, social and economic trends around the world.
Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own.
A 1-year-old boy in a stroller talks to his great-grandmother in a wheelchair on May 14, 2014 in Xi'an, Shannxi Province of China. (Photo by VCG/VCG via Getty Images)

A 1-year-old boy in a stroller talks to his great-grandmother in a wheelchair on May 14, 2014, in Xi'an, Shannxi Province, China. (Photo by VCG/VCG via Getty Images)

For most of recent history, the world has worried about the curse of overpopulation. But in many countries, the problem may soon be too few people, and of those, too many old ones. In 1995 only one country, Italy, had more people over 65 than under 15; today there are 30 and by 2020 that number will hit 35. Demographers estimate that global population growth will end this century.

Rapid aging is already reshaping the politics and economies of many of the most important high-income countries. The demands of older voters are shifting the political paradigm in many places, including the United States, at least temporarily to the right. More importantly, aging populations, with fewer young workers and families, threaten weaker economic growth, as both labor and consumption begin to decline.

We took a look at the 56 countries with populations over 20 million people, nine of which are already in demographic decline. The impact of population decline will worsen over time, particularly as the present generation now in their 50s and 60s retires, begins drawing pensions and other government support.

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Europe: Homeland of Demographic Decline

Heading up our list of slowly dissipating large countries is the Ukraine, a country chewed at its edges by its aggressive Russian neighbor. According to U.N. projections, Ukraine’s population will fall 22% by 2050. Eastern and Southern Europe are home to several important downsizing countries including Poland (off 14% by 2050), the Russian Federation (-10.4%), Italy (-5.5%) and Spain (-2.8%). The population of the EU is expected to peak by 2050 and then gradually decline, suggesting a dim future for that body even if it holds together.

The most important EU country, Germany, has endured demographic decline for over a generation. Germany’s population is forecast to drop 7.7% by 2050, though this projection has not been adjusted to account for the recent immigration surge. The main problem is the very low fertility rate of the EU’s superpower, which according to United Nations data was 1.4 between 2010 and 2015. It takes a fertility rate of 2.1% to replace your own population so we can expect Germany to shrink as well as get very old.
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With Europe in a 'Death Spiral', and the US close on it's heels, I'd say this isn't the time to encourage Homosexuality and Lesbianism, in fact discouraging it may be in order.

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The US is not in a demographic spiral. We are in a temporary decline that is part of a natural cycle that began with the boomers and continued with technological advancement. It's called " the demographic transition" and anthropologists began to track it in the 1950s.

Once the boomers are all dead, the US if left unchanged will have a population on par with the US of 1920. That is a good thing since US economic and global policy has destroyed the middle class.

Rather than reverting to evangelical bigot voodoo demographic theory, the US could embrace economic and global policies that reward families that have children rather than punish them. That would require diverting US assets from global military power projection and dedicating those resources to health care, education, and jobs in the US.

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Losing Their Religion

By: Neil Rogachevsky

Posted: May 2, 2012
This article appeared in: Vol. XII, Number 2 - Spring 2012

A review of How Civilizations Die: (And Why Islam Is Dying Too), by David P. Goldman

n The Decline of the West (1918-1923), Oswald Spengler predicted that the Western countries would depopulate and decay. The European nations had become too urbane to sustain what he called (in pop-Nietzschean fashion) the "organic logic" of life. "Children do not happen," he wrote, "because intelligence at the peak of intensity can find no longer any reason for their existence." The West, according to Spengler, was dying of civilization.

The massive growth of the world's population, including the population of the West, over the second half of the 20th century put something of a dent in Spengler's reputation and put to rest for the moment concerns about population decline. Worrying about demographics became mostly the province of environmentalists and others fearing various "population bombs."

In recent years, however, demographic questions have risen again to urgent importance—for almost Spenglerian reasons. Current data do point to demographic decline. America has a children-to-women "total fertility rate" just barely at replacement level (2.1), and countries as diverse as South Korea, Italy, and Germany all have birthrates at or below 1.5. The "demographic argument" has been pressed by Mark Steyn, Melanie Phillips, and many of conservatism's brightest lights (even David Brooks in the New York Times!) but it owes its resurgence to a series of articles that began in the mid-1990s in the Asia Times under the pseudonym "Spengler."

Since 1999, the prolific "Spengler" has published more than 400 columns with titles as varied as "Zombinomics and Volatility," "The World isn't flat—but flattened," "Putin for President...of the United States," and "Why you pretend to like modern art." These online columns are said to have received hits measured in the millions, and among those millions are many smart, influential people. Online readers speculated that the mysterious "Spengler" could be anyone from a rogue philo-semitic Leo Strauss—reading Chinese Communist Party economist to a Russian plant. In 2009 he finally identified himself as David P. Goldman, a top-ranked bond strategist at Credit Suisse, Bear Stearns, and Bank of America, classically trained musician, and erstwhile follower of Lyndon Larouche.

How Civilizations Die is a general synthesis of the ideas that Goldman developed in his Spengler columns. It offers a brilliant and highly idiosyncratic analysis of contemporary demographic collapse and civilizational decline. Its chapters focus on resilient American and Israeli birthrates, European sterility, and the dramatic decline in Muslim birthrates, subjects about which Goldman has been writing since the tech bubble burst in 1999—at least half a decade ahead of the now well-established civilizational collapse punditry.
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Good read, give it a try. ;)

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Anthropoid wrote:
You are a character Sneer! Easily half of your contributions on this board (several thousand posts at least!) are digressions or tangents to other people's threads with a theme from a limited selection of alternatives: (a) slam "right wingers" or conservatives; (b) slam the United States or American culture/government/society; (c) tout your own merits; (d) slam abrad for one reason or another; (e) misconstrue humor.

Another 1/3 to 1/2 of your posts are complaining about people taking YOUR threads off-topic! :lol:

You're like a cartoon bulletin board villain; almost so consistently 'evil' that you are comical!
Thanks, but I rather enjoy Nero's taunt's. Give's me a chance to post my opinion.

His signature, something about fools are cocksure fits him to a tee.

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mdiehl wrote:
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The US is not in a demographic spiral. We are in a temporary decline that is part of a natural cycle that began with the boomers and continued with technological advancement. It's called " the demographic transition" and anthropologists began to track it in the 1950s.

Once the boomers are all dead, the US if left unchanged will have a population on par with the US of 1920. That is a good thing since US economic and global policy has destroyed the middle class.

Rather than reverting to evangelical bigot voodoo demographic theory, the US could embrace economic and global policies that reward families that have children rather than punish them. That would require diverting US assets from global military power projection and dedicating those resources to health care, education, and jobs in the US.


When creation of wealth isn't as rapid then having a negative growth rate of population for a while helps consolidate the wealth that exists and slows down loss of wealth -> the lesser the divider of inherited wealth the less the wealth is being diluted.

But this only assumes the existing wealth, having a strong middle class is actually one of the biggest creators of wealth. If people are able to gather wealth they don't need as much in inheritance - in fact they require none.

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PS. Jos et täysi natsi ole ;)


Ehkä sinäkään et ole minun mielestäni täysi pederasti. Ehkä.

Näin vankalle pohjalle rakennettua ja syvää molemminpuolista kunnioitusta olen tuskin koskaan kokenut kenenkään kanssa. Kiitos tästä.

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PS. Jos et täysi natsi ole ;)


Ehkä sinäkään et ole minun mielestäni täysi pederasti. Ehkä.

Näin vankalle pohjalle rakennettua ja syvää molemminpuolista kunnioitusta olen tuskin koskaan kokenut kenenkään kanssa. Kiitos tästä.

Eipä kestä. ;)

Sinä taas olet valistanut siitä miten meidät kaikki on petetty.

Vain vahvat, päättäväiset miehet, rauta ja teräs voivat meidät enää pelastaa. :twisted:

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Eipä kestä. ;)

Sinä taas olet valistanut siitä miten meidät kaikki on petetty.

Vain vahvat, päättäväiset miehet, rauta ja teräs voivat meidät enää pelastaa. :twisted:


Veren puhtaus on taattava urhauksin... :lol:

Mutta jos vakavasti otetaan, tarvitaan sekä miesten että naisten panosta mutta en näe että meidän tilanteemme on katastrofaalinen tai edes erityisen paha. Hyväkään se ei ole, mutta me voimme pitää Ruotsia varoittavana esimerkkinä ja _uskaltaa_ olla vahvoja, militaristisia, patrioottisia ja kaikkea sitä mikä saa vihervasemmiston itkupotkuraivarin valtaan.

Isänmaan parasta jos ajatellaan, on se keskitie. Suvaitsevaisuutta, kyllä ne jotka aidosti tänne tahtovat ovat aina tänne päässeet ja osa tai heidän perillisensä ovat 'uusia suomalaisia'. Muttei mitään Ruotsalaiskommunistista maailmanparannuksen nimiin verhottua itsemurhaa ja oman kansan systemaattista hävittämistä ideologian ja Aatteen nimeen.

Ne harvat natsit mitä täällä on ovat totaalinen marginaali-ilmiö, heillä ei ole mitään merkitystä eikä arvoa. Ainoa merkitys mitä heillä on tulee vasemmistolaisesta retoriikasta kun vasemmisto määrittelee julkisen keskustelun säännöt ja tukkii vastustajiensa suut.

Todellisen uhan meille muodostaa oma vihervasemmisto sekä helposti korruptoituva kleptokratia. Niin kauan kuin maassa vallitsee demokratia ja isänmaallisuus on meillä toivoa jäljellä. Eikä ole väärin vaatia uusilta suomalaisilta assimiloitumista ja isänmaallisuutta myös.

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Eipä kestä. ;)

Sinä taas olet valistanut siitä miten meidät kaikki on petetty.

Vain vahvat, päättäväiset miehet, rauta ja teräs voivat meidät enää pelastaa. :twisted:


Veren puhtaus on taattava urhauksin... :lol:

Mutta jos vakavasti otetaan, tarvitaan sekä miesten että naisten panosta mutta en näe että meidän tilanteemme on katastrofaalinen tai edes erityisen paha. Hyväkään se ei ole, mutta me voimme pitää Ruotsia varoittavana esimerkkinä ja _uskaltaa_ olla vahvoja, militaristisia, patrioottisia ja kaikkea sitä mikä saa vihervasemmiston itkupotkuraivarin valtaan.

Isänmaan parasta jos ajatellaan, on se keskitie. Suvaitsevaisuutta, kyllä ne jotka aidosti tänne tahtovat ovat aina tänne päässeet ja osa tai heidän perillisensä ovat 'uusia suomalaisia'. Muttei mitään Ruotsalaiskommunistista maailmanparannuksen nimiin verhottua itsemurhaa ja oman kansan systemaattista hävittämistä ideologian ja Aatteen nimeen.

Ne harvat natsit mitä täällä on ovat totaalinen marginaali-ilmiö, heillä ei ole mitään merkitystä eikä arvoa. Ainoa merkitys mitä heillä on tulee vasemmistolaisesta retoriikasta kun vasemmisto määrittelee julkisen keskustelun säännöt ja tukkii vastustajiensa suut.

Todellisen uhan meille muodostaa oma vihervasemmisto sekä helposti korruptoituva kleptokratia. Niin kauan kuin maassa vallitsee demokratia ja isänmaallisuus on meillä toivoa jäljellä. Eikä ole väärin vaatia uusilta suomalaisilta assimiloitumista ja isänmaallisuutta myös.

Nonniin.

Jos osattais keskustella, niin helposti huomattais ettei tässä niin paljon olla eri mieltä. Jos oli malttia keskustella.

Sinä vaan maalaat semmoisia maailmanlopun visioita että on pakko olla eri mieltä. Tässä yhdessä ennusteessa (Pew) kerrottiin että 2050 Suomessa on väestössa 15% musulmaaneja. En ihan osta tätä.

Olen niitä arabeja nähnyt about +25 vuotta sitten, eikä jäänyt ollenkaan positiviisia mielikuvia heistä. En kyllä kaipaa niitä tänne yhtään. Kyllä niistä pääsee eroon, ja somput saman tien; jos on tahtoa.

Enemmän huolettaa se musta aalto joka Eurooppaan saapuu. Afrikan väkiluku tuplaantuu vuoteen 2030 mennessä, mihin ne 1 miljardi mustaa laitetaan. Moni kun Eurooppaan yrittää.

Ei meidän tarvitsisi netissä nillittää, tavattaisiin nokikkain ja setvittäisiin meidän erimielisyydet kerralla pois. ;)

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