Kameolontti wrote:
mdiehl wrote:
The problem at the moment is that you have essentially a segment of the country who have lived historically with a target painted, by dipshits, on their backs. They're finally seeing a little more liberty and less boot-on-the-neck and they're understandably joyous about it. Then there's the minority of the minority who are foaming at the mouth and whose heads have been filled with critical theory horseshit for whom the concept of moderation is suspended in favor of attention-seeking. In short, evangelizing for homosexuality. Overcommitted to an overhyped idea makes them just like half the rest of the damb planet. Which is why it is fitting to mostly keep an eye on the damb planet and otherwise not become socially engaged with them.
I agree. Most gays I know were just like me in every other way except that.
Anthropoid wrote:
Well . . . not exactly. There are fish in which "homosexuality" is clearly an adaptation, as in: mechanisms to induce a temporary period of males acting like females allow males to survive and grow big enough to become alphas.
People have suggested that for male homos at least, it might be an adaptation something like "helpers at the nest." Because human offspring are so god damned helpless and parasitic, making MORE of them is often NOT the most fit thing to do whereas "recruiting" more help with them IS the most fit thing to do.
It remains an open question, but there are plenty of hypotheses with some empirical support to leave open the idea that at least some of the developmental pathways that lead to homosexual proclivity are adaptations. Hell, the evolutionary medicine folks have models in which many symptoms of ailments if not whole "DISEASES" are adaptations!
Is Depression an Adaptation?Stress as AdaptationWas there also a thing about early homosexuality being often a part of the shamanistic tradition?
There is some crazy fucked up shit in "traditional cultures."
Tsembaga Marang if I recall . . . one of the thousands of tribes on Papua New Guinea. Ethnography in the mid-20th century revealed some fairly abhorrent practices.
Many of the societies on that island have sex-segregation and "sex-discrimination / misoygyny" beliefs and practices that make the Taliban seem like progressivist hipsters.
Also lots of weird initiation rituals. Generally a group would initiate a group of boys/young men who were part of an age cohort (say every guy within a 5 village radius between the ages of 10 and 13 or something). Sleep deprivation, hunger, thirst, exercise to exhaustion, beatings, harassment and every other form of "hazing" you can imagine, plus: you have to drink an adult mans semen by means of fellating him. Without this "seeding" impossible for the younger one to grow up to be full fledged adult.
Lots of penis torture too, sub-incision, whipping the genitals with stinging nettles, etc.
Just your basic "Traditional Culture" on steroids!
