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Following WW1 Europe was a mess with Marxist threatening to take control everywhere. As the opening of this short film sez, Poland was the key, control it and the Soviet had access to Western Europe.

Tried to find another documentary, not so Catholic, but all I found were Polish only.

Still this one tells the tale.

Must watch it.

Michner's novel Poland gives a sort of pro-Polish overview of Polish history including the 1920 war. Read it 20 years ago, liked it then...

“A Pole is a man born with a sword in his right hand, a brick in his left. When the battle is over, he starts to rebuild.”

Yah, read Michner's many novels. They were good but liberal.

Never heard of this conflict. Looking on Google I was unable to determine who attacked whom. The Wiki entry makes it seem like suddenly battle was raging and Poland was driving east trying to establish a breakaway republic in Ukraine.

Further googling reveals another wiki entry that indicates that the Poles started the war in 1919 with the goal of expanding the Polish border eastward and establishing a rump state in Ukraine.

IMO that makes the USSR's attack on Poland in 1939 more understandable.

Yes, there were territorial disputes.

But the final outcome according to historians:

Do you mean the Nazi Germany - USSR co-operation under the Molotov-Ribbentropp pact?

USSR had an alliance with Nazis which included the division of entire eastern Europe.

As for Polish-Soviet War, it was a war between Poland and the democratic Ukraine vs. the communists. Essentially two republics fighting commies. Poles wanted the Polish land back that had been stolen in 18th century by Russia, commies wanted to restore the empire. France was supporting the democracy side in the war.

Soon after the Polish-Soviet War the Soviets turned on their allies in the Free Territory, claiming the anarchist nation of 'sabotage and attacks' and conquered the Ukrainian lands ruthlessly and set up a harsh military occupation and starved millions of Ukrainians to death in the coming years as a punishment for having had the wrong kind of communism without party and leaders.


In my opinion, you always seem to have enormous compassion for the Russian cause. That said, today Russia is the conservative anti-globalization force in Europe and we Europeans may yet soon find ourselves allied with them to end the tyranny of the Islamist Red-Green globalists.

What land was stolen in the 18thC by Russia? Not being sarcastic.

From what I've read, Lithuania grabbed a whole bunch of Russian land after the collapse of Kievan Rus. Russia then took it back in the 16thC. Grand Duchy of Lithuania then involved Poland in its war with Moscovy, meaning that Poland was in some sense of the word an ally of a nation that stole Russian land in a war in which Russia was trying to get its land back.

On the balance, it looks like Russia was a victim of Catholic nations in the west far more often than Russia was the instigator.

As for communism, so what? The world loves Commies. The world loooves the Peoples' Republic of China. The leadership of the EU and the US can't fellate members of the Chinese politburo fast enough when it comes to trade.

A thing occurs to me. The USSR may have been about communism, but within that Russia has always been about Russia and the USSR first and foremost served Russia. Considering how often the west has invaded Russia, welll.....



Yes. I don't see that the Germans had any legitimate beef but can see why the Russians would want to deal a bucketload of revenge. The Russians seem to have very long memories, and seem willing to wait as long as needed to deliver payback. Sucks to be on the receiving end of that but IMO revenge is a beautiful thing.