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 Post subject: Star of Europe falling
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:21 am 
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I don't see a very prominent future for Europe.

It started the century as Lords of Earth.

And then the downhill turned into a free fall.

In Great War Europeans sapped each other harshly, Russia too was slapped around heavily and countries such as France experienced a complete and utter psychological collapse.

US largely stood by and delivered a finishing blow.

The Second World War, Europeans really went overboard slaughtering each other. This time it wasn't limited to Europe but if any continent it was Europe that bled and burned. Again the strong countries of Europe were torn apart and their populations decimated, countries like Poland losing almost a fifth of their population.

Germany, the main culprit was stripped of it's patents and technology and much of East Europe's (divided from Germany towards east) industry was looted to Russia as Soviet countries suffered greatly.

US suffered the most losses it has ever lost but in comparison in terms of human suffering they got off easier than most other countries while their gigantic industrial and economic spending and sacrifice kept literally more than half of Europe from falling to Soviet Empire but these countries were done - the East Europe was brutally raped and the genocide cleaned it of much of intellectuals and hard working people that had survived the war. West Europe was reduced to US auxiliary army which itself was only able to act in this role due to US support.

Russians and Americans built such massive nuclear arsenals that none could ever threaten either. It was the great polarization - which ended as Russia gave up it's empire and stopped preaching for a socially equal totalitarianism and only Americans were left with their social darwinian global market economy.

As the Soviet Empire collapsed Europe tried to unite for the first time in it's history and uniquely through peaceful and voluntary process.

But it would not be an equal Union. It would be one dominated by Germany and Germany's economic interests and Germany's post war ideals based on hate of their own culture and love for anything foreign, ideology not unique to Germany but increasingly common in West where it was seen as necessary to tear apart Christianity and any values related to it such as family values and discipline and respect for work while embracing anything that went against it and creating a taboo of criticizing foreign totalitarian ideologies such as Islam.

It was argued that importing of massive amounts of Muslims was "economically necessary" or "necessary to replenish population" while the European Union's civilization in every policy and ideology was attacking families and the rate at which population reproduce, embracing anything and everything that limits this growth and finally peaking with managing to turn the population growth into decline.

And we arrive at today.

Europe has no military and doesn't want it. UK is getting out and most of EU is still oblivious as to "why on Earth would they want out, must have been a fluke". The continent has next to no nuclear power and is sandwiched between two massive civilizations that both have massive military and nuclear capacity - meaning Europe sits between two civilizations that it cannot talk back to but which have the power to make moves against it. So far US has been benevolent big brother while also benefiting from it but is increasingly seeing the benefits of it's friendship with Europe vane and disappear as Europe has become little more than a cargo cult.

And now Europe is facing the consequences of Islamization - endless brutal terror across it's territory and it's response is "we must not allow all this hate and terror and murder to stop us from inviting more Islamic Warriors in, we Must turn the other cheek and let them hit us harder and harder".

This is of course not sinking well and is being merged with the increasing realization across EU's "provinces" that the media is little more than the media of Soviet Union - deceitful and filled with propaganda to support the elite's ideology while censoring anything that might reflect badly upon it, all the while with the provinces getting the shaft while Germany benefits, seeing as how the national politicians are reduced to little more than peddlers looking for buyers for national infrastructure and the best companies the countries can offer, anything worth of value being sold abroad.

The latest move of trying to strip all European citizens from most of their weapons is seeing what's coming - a full blown internal conflict within Europe as the impossibility of the xenophile cleptocratic elite is crashing down upon them.

Meanwhile US is making moves to abandon Europe while Russia is sharpening it's claws. For Russia the situation is ideal - the elites in Europe have created countless unsustainable and unbearable issues that hardly need to be pushed to lead to an explosion.

And Europe hardly has the will to defend itself, much less each other and there are hardly any nuclear weapons in Europe and much less any credible armed forces except for a couple of exceptions - some of which may be severely hit by EU's elites attempt to pre-empt a rebellion by confiscating weapons that are essential for the border province's capability to resist Russia.

But maybe Russia doesn't even need to invade. It merely needs to sit back and be ready. Eventually EU is going to explode and as the EU elite try to forcibly hold on to their provinces and power they will antagonize the population and push them right into Russia's lap.

Don't expect this all to unravel in a year or two but over a longer period of time. This is one possible scenario I am seeing. And it's not necessarily the worst scenario, Russia certainly has no desire to see it's authority compromised by Islam and they do not feel that they need to appear saintly by promising to give free money for millions of Islamics to settle into their territory simply to harass their people and undermine their culture and government.

Maybe a better, more vital and stronger Europe could be built by Russia on the cinders of EU?

Even that would be far better than a Europe with minarets in every city and the fate of Turkey, EU ruled by a Caliph with Islam and the sword as the only alternatives.

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 Post subject: Re: Star of Europe falling
PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:03 am 
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It's not even the wars - they were a long time ago now.

It's the obsession with regulation, with safety, with control, with ideological conformity, with a generalised dislike of the private sector. Europeans have been cruising on their past achievements for a very long time now.

Third world "human capital" isn't going to help.

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 Post subject: Re: Star of Europe falling
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I think we still have room for a few more tired, poor, huddled masses yearning to breath free!

You two would make excellent additions to the melting pot!

Just--MAKE SURE YOUR LEGAL!-- :mrgreen:

. . . and leave your Koran at home. It will no longer be accepted by any major vendors after 20 Jan 2017 :P

In fact, you can even bring Nero!

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 Post subject: Re: Star of Europe falling
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Nero will be welcomed but confined to living in the rural areas of Texas....hot and dusty in the summers and filled with.........Texans. ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: Star of Europe falling
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chijohnaok wrote:
Nero will be welcomed but confined to living in the rural areas of Texas....hot and dusty in the summers and filled with.........Texans. ;-)



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 Post subject: Re: Star of Europe falling
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chijohnaok wrote:
Nero will be welcomed but confined to living in the rural areas of Texas....hot and dusty in the summers and filled with.........Texans. ;-)


As one of the guys who lives in that hot, dusty, rural area of Texas I think I can speak for all of us and would rather he be given work in the oil fields.....in Barrow, Alaska so he would feel at home.

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 Post subject: Re: Star of Europe falling
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As EU is losing it's influence and it's policies are failing Putin states that Russia's official policy is to deal with EU countries bilaterally if/when dealings with EU are unsatisfactory.

Countries like Finland have taken a severe economic beating from the anti-Russian sanctions and EU has done absolutely nothing to mitigate the damages while most other countries remain largely unaffected and some countries even benefit from the sanctions.

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 Post subject: Re: Star of Europe falling
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I'd say the star of yourup fell 100yrs ago ... the star of USA shone bright at end of WWII ... but within 20yrs was also falling ... the "West" lasted about 500yds ... from 1450 thru 1950 plus or minus ... not a bad run ... the moozlims star had fallen before that and the chinks as well ... but time for a recycle ... looks like asia's turn for a star next ... the moozlims still need 100yds or so to pull themselves out of the moozlim dark ages ... in CIV terms, the moozlims just reached a coast line ... and proudly discovered the caravel ... only to look out on the water and see an Chinese battleship floating by !!! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Star of Europe falling
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Anthropoid wrote:
I think we still have room for a few more tired, poor, huddled masses yearning to breath free!

You two would make excellent additions to the melting pot!

Just--MAKE SURE YOUR LEGAL!-- :mrgreen:

. . . and leave your Koran at home. It will no longer be accepted by any major vendors after 20 Jan 2017 :P

In fact, you can even bring Nero!



US immigration pretty much refuses to take in Europeans based on their skin color alone. Middle class European? Hah! Better have some prior connection to a US-based company or have gov't connections if you want to legally emigrate. They really only want people from 3rd world shit holes to come here nowadays.

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 Post subject: Re: Star of Europe falling
PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:48 pm 
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NefariousKoel wrote:
Anthropoid wrote:
I think we still have room for a few more tired, poor, huddled masses yearning to breath free!

You two would make excellent additions to the melting pot!

Just--MAKE SURE YOUR LEGAL!-- :mrgreen:

. . . and leave your Koran at home. It will no longer be accepted by any major vendors after 20 Jan 2017 :P

In fact, you can even bring Nero!



US immigration pretty much refuses to take in Europeans based on their skin color alone. Middle class European? Hah! Better have some prior connection to a US-based company or have gov't connections if you want to legally emigrate. They really only want people from 3rd world shit holes to come here nowadays.


Essentially, even if one joins the military one could still have citizenship application rejected after the minimum of 4 years one has to stay in the country.

And those 4 years usually mean working for others, don't know how easy it is to set up your own business as a non-citizen and then risk being evicted from the country in the case that the application fails.

You'd think that someone bringing his company over to be taxed by US and to hire US citizens who also speaks better English than average citizen would receive if not a red carpet at least an expedited citizenship process upon relinquishing any other citizenship one holds.

Even if there was like a sum of money you could pay to expedite the process or some way to prove your eligibility.

But after years of looking those things don't exist.

Not to worry, I have a plan.

Travel to Turkey, get papers done for being Islamic and then seek asylum in Europe, get free money for life.

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