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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:43 pm 
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We could install a 24 hour storage life solar charged battery in every house in the united states for a cost of $52B per year for ten years. That's less than 1/10th what the US fed govt will spend on defense over the same period. We could install enough solar in the USA to provide a full charge to those batteries for about $1T over the same period... about 1/7 of what we spend on the DoD.

Were we to do that, we could completely eliminate the costs associated with force projection in the Mediterranean Sea, the Persian Gulf, and the Indian Ocean. We'd be completely energy independent and our CO2 emissions would be reduced to about 1/3 of current amounts. We'd also save about $50Bn per year in reduced medical costs associated with treatment for people with respiratory illnesses, circulatory, and treating premies cause by air pollution.

In short we'd save money, be more secure economically and militarily, and pollute less. There's no reason not to do it except for pure blackhearted deep state corruption.

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 Post subject: Re: 2 Questions to Shut Up Nauseating Global Warming Proslet
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Some claim that Trump cutting EPA funding, loosening regulations and withdrawing the US from the Paris Climate Accords was bad and would result in the end of humanity.

So just how is the US doing with regards to Emissions Reduction?

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/08/21/ ... reduction/

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Shocker: U.S. Leading All Paris Accord Signatories In Emissions Reduction

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Posted at 6:01 pm on August 21, 2018

I’m old enough to remember when we were told that President Trump pulling out of the Paris climate agreement was basically the end of human life on the planet. The world would eventually burn away into a desert and it would be all our fault. Of course, that was then and this is now. Stephen Moore at the Washington Times reviewed the results of the latest BP Statistical Review of World Energy and discovered that America’s place in the global emissions puzzle isn’t living up to our billing as the evil climate change deniers we’re supposed to be. In fact, not only are our emissions not going up, but in 2017 we reduced our emissions more than any other developed country in the world. Go figure.

Take a wild guess what country is reducing its greenhouse gas emissions the most? Canada? Britain? France? India? Germany? Japan? No, no, no, no, no and no.

The answer to that question is the United States of America. Wow! How can that be? This must be a misprint. Fake news. America never signed the Kyoto Protocol some two decades ago. We never enacted a carbon tax. We don’t have a cap and trade carbon emission program. That evironmental villain Donald Trump pulled America out of the Paris climate accord that was signed by almost the entire rest of the civilized world.

Yet the latest world climate report from the BP Statistical Review of World Energy finds that in 2017, America reduced its carbon emissions by 0.5 percent, the most of all major countries. That’s especially impressive given that our economy grew by nearly 3 percent — so we had more growth and less pollution — the best of all worlds.


Sadly, not everyone is doing as well as we are in reducing greenhouse gases. In fact, pretty much nobody is even close. As this portion of the BP report shows, overall greenhouse gas emissions are up considerably, with the United States being one of only a handful of countries cutting back. All of those other Paris Climate Accord countries are falling way behind on their targets.

Global CO2 emissions from energy in 2017 grew by 1.6%, rebounding from the stagnant volumes during 2014-2016, and faster than the 10-year average of 1.3%

Declines were led by the US (-0.5%). This is the ninth time in this century that the US has had the largest decline in emissions in the world. This also was the third consecutive year that emissions in the US declined, though the fall was the smallest over the last three years.

Carbon emissions from energy use from the US are the lowest since 1992, the year that the UNFCCC came into existence. The next largest decline was in Ukraine (-10.1%).

The largest increase in carbon emissions in 2017 came from China (1.6%), a reversal from the past three years when the largest increases in emissions came from India. China’s emissions in 2017 were 0.3% higher than the previous peak in 2014. China has had the world’s largest increments in carbon emission every year this century except in four years – 2000 and between 2014-16.


So China and India are the two worst nations in terms of pollution in general and carbon emissions specifically. They’re not cutting back, but rather increasing at an alarming rate. But we can’t let the EU off the hook here. Of all the EU signatories to the Paris climate treaty, not one of them is meeting their current goals for emissions reduction. Only five of them – Luxembourg, Netherlands, France, Portugal and Sweden – are even at 50% of their targets. The rest are all trailing behind.

Moore makes a valid point when he wonders what all the fuss was about. Why would the United States want to sign on to an agreement which would produce even more financially crippling restrictions and requirements when we’re already ahead of the game in emissions reductions and our “partners” aren’t holding up their end of the deal anyway? Besides, with the dismal numbers coming out of China and India, any reductions we achieve are wiped out by those two nations immediately.

So why are we managing to get ahead and contributing to at least a slowing of emissions in some parts of the world? Because we took the lead in shale oil and natural gas production, both of which are dumping far fewer contaminants into the atmosphere than coal or pulp burning. But we’re supposed to be the bad guys. If these other nations want to tell us what to do in terms of carbon emissions they’d better at least catch up to us first.


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 Post subject: Re: 2 Questions to Shut Up Nauseating Global Warming Proslet
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That's the effect of replacing coal with methane.

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mdiehl wrote:
That's the effect of replacing coal with methane.



Correct. In true American fashion, we found our own solution to a challenge.
We didn’t need to agree to some bullshit world agreement that many countries have a history of failing to follow.

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A *partial* solution. But it's a good start, and it does not involve taxing the crap out of Americans much less handing the money off to our economic competitors.

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 Post subject: Re: 2 Questions to Shut Up Nauseating Global Warming Proslet
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Great Barrier Reef headed for ‘massive death’
The ‘Godfather of Coral’ predicts a ‘planetary catastrophe


http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2018/08/world/great-barrier-reef/

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"I was a climate change skeptic, at first," he says. He realized that climate change was "serious" in the mid-1980s, and around 1990 he became "alarmed" about its impact on coral reefs.

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Meh, planetary catastrophes have happened lots of times; bout time for another one I reckon.

Most species which have ever existed are extinct. Most extinctions have occurred as a result of cataclysmic "climate change." Life will find a way whether we are part of the equation or not.

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That is true. But then the central question is of course whether people WANT to be part of the equation. If the goal is self-annihilation, surely there are more expedient ways.

My goal is to ensure that my family and descendants are among the survivors.

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mdiehl wrote:
That is true. But then the central question is of course whether people WANT to be part of the equation. If the goal is self-annihilation, surely there are more expedient ways.

My goal is to ensure that my family and descendants are among the survivors.


Meh, you'll all be dead eventually . . .

Religious dogmatists like you don't give an actual shit about actual environmental protection so I don't care what happens to you and your descendants . . .

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I get it that you hate science, reason, and facts, but that doesn't make scientists "religious dogmatists." Indeed, it seems more like you're projecting your own intellectual flaws on the rest of the world... possibly as a kind of compensatory exercise for your own failures.

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