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 Post subject: Re: Military stuff ... past and present.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:41 pm 
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I was just wondering about that Hawk shooting down F-16c and Rafale (simulated).

Someone talked about how the friendly spirit of the engagement led to it - essentially, the F-16 should have just max thrusted the hell out of there but 'friendly' stayed in turning fight which is just silly - it should have disengaged with speed and got enough distance to use it's primary advantages.

Just trying to catch the real situation behind all of the gloss.
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For WW II examples I know of cases where 16+ WW II fighters chased a single biplane unable to shoot it down because it was flying below their stall speed while having amazing agility. The time to get your aim right and to engage was really, really short and the thing wouldn't just stand still.

They did eventually shoot it down of course but it was a lot of trouble for some time and there never was a chance for the fighter to return fire.

I also know of how slow 350km/h fighters shot down 500km/h bombers (with load) by simply climbing really high and diving onto them with good pilots.

But today is different. The only chance is that you literally hide behind a hill, mountain or a river and the enemy doesn't have access to satellite IR etc. and you manage to somehow catch him flying slow.

Highly unlikely though and the sheer power of modern fighters is stupendous, as well as their situational awareness. Especially for the likes of USAF.

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The Bloody 100th Bomb Group Documentary.



Some may have seen it before, but it is worth seeing anyhow. ;)

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And something for tankers, and tank killers. ;)

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