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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:52 pm 
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Yes we can, there is snow already on the ground. And more coming and most importantly subzero temperature ensures that Santa can come without a no-snow disruption.



How about you?

But the prediction of our met office that in future the only snow we will see is the wet snow slamming horizontally at one's face. :twisted:

And why?

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By Dana Nuccitelli, December 17, 2018 wrote:
Little Ice Age? No. Big Warming Age? Yes.

The Little Ice Age was… little. Research has also shown that global average surface temperatures only cooled by about 0.5 degrees Celsius during the Little Ice Age. For comparison, temperatures have risen 1 degree Celsius over the past century due to human-caused global warming. If the prior period was a little ice age, then the current period is a Big Warming Age.

Moreover, scientists have concluded that the sun was only responsible for a small fraction of the cooling during the Little Ice Age. In fact, a 2017 paper led by the University of Reading’s Matthew Owens concluded that humans had a cooling effect of about the same size as the quiet sun during that period, through changes in land use: We replaced dark forests with lighter agricultural land, which increased the Earth’s overall reflectivity. Volcanic activity—which was particularly high during the Little Ice Age and has a cooling effect by pumping particles into the atmosphere that block sunlight—appears to have been the biggest contributor to the modest cooling during this period.

Numerous studies have also shown that even if we were to enter an extended solar minimum period, it would offset no more than 0.3 degrees Celsius of warming. For comparison, humans are currently causing about 0.2 degrees Celsius of global warming per decade. Moreover, the solar cooling influence would be temporary, lasting only until the end of the quiet solar phase.

In short, credible solar models do not predict that we’re headed for another grand solar minimum.

And even if, defying the credible solar models, we were lucky enough to have a grand solar minimum suddenly occur at just the precise moment that we need it most to save us from climate change, it would offset at most 15 years’ worth of human-caused global warming, and only temporarily.

We’re fortunate that the sun is relatively stable.

Unfortunately, humans are not.

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Woodcut of a famous 18th-century winter in Massachusetts, during what some have called the "Little Ice Age," for lack of a better term. But compared to full-blown ice ages, it was short-lived and puny, scientists say. Image from "History and Antiquities of New England," published 1856. Courtesy of New York Public Library.

In September, a website called Space Weather Archive interviewed Martin Mlynczak of NASA’s Langley Research Center. Mlynczak noted that because the sun is currently in a relatively inactive period, the thermosphere (one of the highest layers of Earth’s atmosphere, more than 300 miles above the surface) could reach its coldest temperatures since records began in the 1940s.

The interview didn’t mention Earth’s surface temperatures, where the past five years have been the five hottest since records began in the late-1800s. However, the British newspaper Metro then ran a story falsely claiming that: “It’s feared this could herald the arrival of a uniquely grim ‘mini Ice Age.’ ”

Like a bad game of Telephone, this inaccurate reporting then spread throughout the conservative media, including Fox News, the Drudge Report, Rush Limbaugh, and Sarah Palin’s Twitter page. The story was debunked by the climate scientists at Climate Feedback, and Metro subsequently issued a correction, but the damage had been done.

The ‘imminent mini ice age’ myth rears its ugly head in the conservative media like clockwork every year or two. It’s always based on claims that the sun is headed into an inactive phase, like those that coincided with what has popularly been called the “Little Ice Age”—the period from roughly about the 16th to 19th centuries when some exceptionally cold winters made the Thames River sometimes freeze so solidly that Londoners held winter fairs on the ice, and contemporary diarists wrote that the snow was so deep in New Hampshire that people burned their furniture because they couldn’t get to the woodshed. (“…[O]ur last Winter brought with it a Snow that excelled them all,” wrote Cotton Mather wrote in his diary in 1717, under the heading “An Horrid Snow.”) But the term Little Ice Age is a misnomer, and some climate scientists have argued that the name should be abandoned. It was not a full-blown ice age at all (or even a little one), but rather a very short-lived and puny climate and social perturbation, by the standards of geologic time.

Not headed for another grand solar minimum. It’s true that the sun is in a relatively quiet period, with the amount of energy reaching the Earth (Total Solar Irradiance, or TSI) lower than it has been since the mid-1900s. But TSI is still significantly higher than it was during the so-called Little Ice Age, and likely higher than at any time between the 1600s and 1940, for that matter. Particularly during the late-1600s, there was a period when only about two sunspots were observed per year. (Sunspots are an indicator of solar activity). Scientists coined this type of period a “grand solar minimum.” For comparison, in 2018 there have been about 50 sunspots observed.

It remains an open question when another grand solar minimum could occur. Northumbria University mathematics professor Valentina Zharkova created a model that predicts the sun will enter another grand minimum phase lasting from about 2020 to 2055. But solar scientists have criticized this model as being overly simple and flawed. For example, Ilya Usoskin, head of the Oulu Cosmic Ray Station in Finland and vice-director of the country’s ReSoLVE Center of Excellence in Research, published a critique of Zharkova’s solar model, noting that it was created based on just 35 years of data and fails to accurately reproduce past solar activity. And if it cannot accurately reproduce past solar activity, then how can it be expected to accurately predict future activity?

In contrast to Zharkova’s findings, in a new paper just published in Nature Communications, solar scientists Prantika Bhowmik and Dibyendu Nandy at the Center of Excellence in Space Sciences, India, created a model that successfully reproduced the sun’s cycles back to the 1930s–more than double the number of years (and data points) used in Zharkova’s troubled model. Based on a longer timeline and our understanding of the sun’s physics, their model predicts that the next 11-year solar cycle (between about 2019 and 2030) will be relatively quiet, similar to the current one, but it will still be much more active than during previous grand solar minimum events.

I spoke with Ilya Usoskin, who was not involved in the research of Bhowmik and Nandy but finds their results to be credible, based as they are on a physical model driven by observational data. Usokin noted that the next 11-year solar cycle can generally be modeled reasonably accurately once the minimum of the current cycle is approached. But later solar cycles beyond the year 2030 cannot be reliably predicted now, before the minimum of the next solar cycle, because of the more random and unpredictable component of solar activity.

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The global mean surface temperature difference under the IPCC A2 emissions scenario (close to our current greenhouse gas emissions pathway) under the current level of solar activity (red) and in a grand solar minimum (blue), with NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies measurements (black). Adapted from Fuelner & Rahmstorf (2010) by SkepticalScience.com

The Little Ice Age was… little. Research has also shown that global average surface temperatures only cooled by about 0.5 degrees Celsius during the Little Ice Age. For comparison, temperatures have risen 1 degree Celsius over the past century due to human-caused global warming. If the prior period was a little ice age, then the current period is a Big Warming Age.
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And even if, defying the credible solar models, we were lucky enough to have a grand solar minimum suddenly occur at just the precise moment that we need it most to save us from climate change, it would offset at most 15 years’ worth of human-caused global warming, and only temporarily.

We’re fortunate that the sun is relatively stable.

Unfortunately, humans are not.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:42 pm 
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This was and remains a green Christmas. I bought snow tires for my wife, son, daughter. They all agree that this has been the best winter driving yet.

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Fucking hell nero, how many climate change threads do you need to start? Here's a White Christmas for you...

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 Post subject: Re: White Christmas
PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:57 pm 
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Fucking hell nero, how many climate change threads do you need to start? Here's a White Christmas for you...

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I don't care about those Bismarck threads, so when I find something interesting I will start a new thread. ;)

But here is my Christmas story just for you.

Once upon the time there was a Santa in Pispala, Tampere, Finland. One Christmas this Santa had visited perhaps too many families and drunk too much of mulled wine that was offered to Santa. Later in the evening he had a kid on his lap when he felt like throwing up, puking. He put his hand on his mouth, but because he was wearing a santa-mask the puke was coming out anyway. Because the mouth and nose holes were covered, the puke came from the eye holes. Something that the kid can remember the rest of life, puke coming from santa's eyes.

This story is true, from Pispala, Manse. ;)

PS. See, I am flexible, I didn't start a new thread for the Christmas story. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: White Christmas
PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:16 pm 
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nero wrote:
Mac wrote:
Fucking hell nero, how many climate change threads do you need to start? Here's a White Christmas for you...

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I don't care about those Bismarck threads, so when I find something interesting I will start a new thread. ;)

But here is my Christmas story just for you.

Once upon the time there was a Santa in Pispala, Tampere, Finland. One Christmas this Santa had visited perhaps too many families and drunk too much of mulled wine that was offered to Santa. Later in the evening he had a kid on his lap when he felt like throwing up, puking. He put his hand on his mouth, but because he was wearing a santa-mask the puke was coming out anyway. Because the mouth and nose holes were covered, the puke came from the eye holes. Something that the kid can remember the rest of life, puke coming from santa's eyes.

This story is true, from Pispala, Manse. ;)

PS. See, I am flexible, I didn't start a new thread for the Christmas story. ;)


Nero was probably the young child that saw Santa projectile vomiting out of his eyes.

That would explain a lot.... :lol:

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Nero was probably the young child that saw Santa projectile vomiting out of his eyes.

That would explain a lot.... :lol:

No, I have lived in Helsinki all my life expect those glorious 105 days in Hamina.

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Mac wrote:
Fucking hell nero, how many climate change threads do you need to start? Here's a White Christmas for you...

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How nice.

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Stalingrad?

Ja.

PS. There is a feature called a picture search. Just right click on the picture and a context menu pops up. There is an option to search the picture with google. ;)

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