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It's weird that people don't just go to one of these lower cost lower pay counties as opposed to going to China or India where everything is generally fucked up, corrupt and weird.

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Dang! You aren't kidding. Just looked at real estate there. Plus, the fact that it is Missouri would keep annoying stepkids from trying to move in. :lol:

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Dang! You aren't kidding. Just looked at real estate there. Plus, the fact that it is Missouri would keep annoying stepkids from trying to move in. :lol:


Personally I actually do it already. I live in very rural area which is a really good balance between not having to place orders for food but still having very affordable everything. And if I ever made any money, I could afford a frickin mansion with lands here for the cost of a small apartment in the capital. And what's more, if I had money construction and everything like help with gardens etc. is ridiculously cheap here. And there are no legal cases. And almost no crime, vandalism and such that plague big cities is not a thing here and no one even bats an eye if you say you like guns, cars and barbecue. Everyone is always immediately offended in the capital if you bring any of those up.

The "bad" side is that I don't get to hang up at trade conventions. Just, that's hardly a loss, the finnish companies are almost to an obsession focused solely on mobile games. "Future of gaming" "ultimate gaming" bla bla. Then they keep trying to reinvent Angry Birds or being the next Flappy Bird. And trade conventions are just about bunch of people drinking and hitting a nightclub afterwards. I've got nothing against that but I've also got nothing to do with it and not even the least interest to go drinking with people solely because they happen to have a similar profession and entirely opposite mindset about it.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/23/us/un ... -hour.html

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University of California System Set to Raise Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour
By IAN LOVETTJULY 22, 2015

LOS ANGELES — The University of California system will raise the minimum wage for its employees and contract workers to $15 an hour, university officials announced on Wednesday, the latest in a string of recent victories for labor leaders here who have fought to increase workers’ pay.

The move comes after the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors voted Tuesday to raise the minimum wage in unincorporated areas of the county to $15 an hour; the City of Los Angeles approved the same increase in May.

Janet Napolitano, the president of the University of California, said it would become the first public university system in the country to voluntarily raise the minimum wage as high as $15 an hour. “This is the right thing to do — for our workers and their families, for our mission and values, and to enhance U.C.’s leadership,” Ms. Napolitano, the former secretary of Homeland Security, said at a meeting of the school’s regents.

When the City of Los Angeles approved a higher minimum wage in May, officials hoped the move would pressure other governments to follow suit. Opponents said the increase would only drive businesses away to neighboring cities with less expensive labor. Santa Monica and West Hollywood are also now considering raising the minimum wage, though most of the county’s 88 cities have made no moves yet. The state minimum wage in California is set to increase to $10 an hour in 2016.

At the University of California’s 10 campuses, the minimum wage increase will be phased in over the next two years for about 3,200 employees, reaching $15 an hour in October 2017 for those who work at least 20 hours a week. Thousands of people working for contractors will also be paid at least the same rate.

Todd Stenhouse, a spokesman for the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, the largest employee union at the university, said that outside contractors had been underpaid for years at the university system.

“The measure today will address some of the problems those contractors face, but not all of them,” he said. “It’s encouraging. But it’s certainly not something where people should be dancing in the streets.”

Officials estimated that the wage increases would add about $14 million a year to a total university payroll of more than $12 billion. Dianne Klein, a University of California system spokeswoman, said the cost increase would be paid for by “auxiliary enterprises” like parking garages, book stores and medical centers, and would not come from tuition or state tax dollars.

But that assurance did not satisfy critics, who said that the cost would ultimately be borne by students, who have already seen repeated tuition increases in recent years.

The announcement of the wage increase came on the heels of another budget fight, in which University of California administrators agreed to keep in-state tuition flat only once the state offered more revenue to cover other costs.

Kristin Olsen, the Republican leader in the California Assembly, said now was not the time take on an additional cost, when the system was struggling to fund its core mission of educating students in California at an affordable rate.

“This isn’t Robin Hood — they’re not imposing higher costs on the rich, or even on taxpayers as a whole, to foot this bill,” she said. “It’s directly charged to the students and their parents who use those auxiliary services, who are already going into debt to invest in their futures. That’s the wrong direction to take the U.C. system in.”



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Posted at 2:09 pm on July 22, 2015 by Twitchy Staff | View Comments

University of California President Janet Napolitano announced today that the minimum wage of thousands of workers on UC campuses across the state will be raised to $15 an hour over the next three years. Good news?

Apparently, yes … but there’s a “but.” University of California, Irvine physics professor Asantha R. Cooray is sad because he won’t be able to afford as many research assistants after the wage increase goes through:

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Expect disciplinary action for that prof for putting the University into a bad light.

2 months of paid vacation?

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It's weird that people don't just go to one of these lower cost lower pay counties as opposed to going to China or India where everything is generally fucked up, corrupt and weird.


Labor is still much cheaper in such Asian countries. They also have far more available population to cycle through those jobs with extremely high turnover rates, such as Customer Service & Tech Support. There are almost no raw manufacturing jobs left here in the States, so I didn't even bother mentioning those.


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Dang! You aren't kidding. Just looked at real estate there. Plus, the fact that it is Missouri would keep annoying stepkids from trying to move in. :lol:



As I mentioned - some people have figured out how much more their money is worth there. They make the big money elsewhere and then "retire" early in the Ozarks, thus stretching the value of their money far more in their new easy rural life in the hills. Not everyone is up for leaving big city life, but there are plenty who do and some of them actually follow through.

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http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-minimum-w ... 1438987336

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A Minimum-Wage Bungle in New York
Gov. Andrew Cuomo wants restaurant franchisers to pay $15 an hour, but it’s small businesses that will be hit.


By STEVE CALDEIRA
Aug. 7, 2015 6:42 p.m. ET
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New York’s Fast Food Wage Board, a panel appointed by Gov. Andrew Cuomo, has recommended increasing the minimum wage to $15 an hour from $8.75 for quick-service restaurant businesses with 30 or more locations. The target, according to Mr. Cuomo, is “large, national companies which have been making extraordinary profits” while “underpaying their workers,” who are supported by public-welfare programs such as Medicaid.

But the higher labor costs that the New York state labor commissioner is expected to approve will not hit large companies. That’s because small business owners own and operate all of New York’s Burger King restaurants, and about 95% of its McDonald’s restaurants, as franchisees. These business owners set the compensation for the workers they employ. Burger King and McDonald’s, on the other hand, are paid a percentage (generally a 3% to 5% royalty fee) of the restaurant’s gross sales, regardless of the franchisees’ profits.

There are 7,303 franchised restaurants in New York operating under agreements with 116 brands, and like other restaurant owners, many pay some of their employees the starting wage of $8.75 an hour. Yet the owner of even a single franchised restaurant would automatically have to pay a minimum $15 an hour, simply because of his affiliation with a brand that has more than 30 restaurants nationwide. That’s not fair.

Could these restaurant owners cope with such a huge increase in operating costs by reducing their profits? Quick-service restaurant franchises operate on slim profit margins—on average 2 to 4 cents on the dollar according to an Employment Policies Institute study. And to the extent they make lower profits, these business owners will be less likely to open new restaurants. Restaurateurs who own more than 30 non-franchise quick-service establishments also will be put at a disadvantage with competitors not subject to the higher minimum wage.

To manage increased costs, franchisees instead may be forced to reduce their current staff or reduce their hours. They might even seek to automate some of their processes by implementing kiosks or mobile platforms for ordering food. The result would be fewer job opportunities for unskilled young men and women, who rely on these entry-level jobs to learn important work and life skills and to move up the employment ladder.

What about increasing prices? Certainly, consumers’ willingness to pay more for fast food would help offset the franchisees’ increased labor costs. However, increasing prices may result in losing customers who will seek lower-priced options. Two levels—one for franchises and another for other restaurant owners—will force some franchises to close.

State or local governments that raise the minimum wage across the board will help the lowest-wage workers who manage to keep their jobs. But the solution to the lack of quality jobs is not a massive minimum-wage increase for a subset of one industry, in an attempt to turn low-skilled entry-level jobs into middle-income jobs. The real culprit is six years of ineffective progressive economic policies. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there are 8.3 million Americans still unemployed and another seven million “marginally” employed, often working two or three part-time jobs to make ends meet. There are more than 550,000 fewer full-time jobs today than there were in December 2007, before the recession began.

The answer to the current drought in jobs with a good salary isn’t another well-intended but misguided government fix. Instead, it is economic growth that will create the kind of jobs that will permanently lift people out of poverty. A vibrant free-enterprise system is the only way to generate that kind of economic growth, not blatantly discriminatory social experiments conceived by union bosses.

Mr. Caldeira is the president and CEO of the International Franchise Association in Washington, D.C.



This is what you are going to see at NcDonald's and Burger King in New York:

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That's the spirit! Hire robots!

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That's the spirit! Hire robots!


All the robotic workers must be crushed. All cars and computers must be assembled by hand.

Bring back the hat makers and tailors!

Unemployment solved!


But seriously, who would even want to work as a cashier at McDolan or St. Bucks?

There are also plans to have most of the cashiers removed from all markets and retail stores, or almost all with the ones that will retain them being luxury stores selling designer products and focusing on high quality service. So the few actual workers at shops will eventually be stylists and such. "Ohh.. Suits you Sir!"

Also, no warehouse workers in bigger warehouses and markets. It will be a lot cheaper and efficient to use automated warehousing. At some point humans cannot even enter the warehouses because 1. they will in many cases be 3D (not just horizontal but also vertical storing) 2. the machines that operate there could injure or kill someone entering the space where they operate.

But again, who wants to operate a forklift?

Because, we can all just get that university degree and then write software. Or?
Or else some of us will and the rest will sit at home drinking and watching Big Brother and Idols. At least until the drone armies get properly implemented and it is no longer necessary to keep the unwashed masses content.

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So how is that $15/hr minimum wage working out for you Seattle?

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/201 ... or_ya.html

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Hey, Seattle! How's that $15 minimum wage working out for ya?

By Rick Moran

The American Enterprise Institute blog reveals the not very surprising news that 10 months into Seattle's radical experiment of boosting the minimum wage to $15 an hour over a period of years, the city has suffered the worst job losses since the Great Recession.

Now that the first Seattle minimum wage increase has been in effect for more than ten months, and as local employers brace for the additional minimum wage hikes that will eventually increase their annual labor costs per full-time minimum wage worker by 61% and by a whopping $11,300 (from the increase in hourly labor costs from $9.32 to $15 an hour), are there any noticeable effects so far on the city’s labor market? Is Seattle’s radical experiment with the highest-ever minimum wage in US history serving as a “model for the rest of the nation to follow”? Or is Seattle serving as an “economic canary in the coal mine” for other cities and states (and the country) considering the “bold action” of imposing higher labor costs on employers by as much as $15,500 annually per full-time minimum wage workers if they enact legislation increasing the minimum wage from $7.25 to $15 an hour?


Early evidence from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) on Seattle’s monthly employment, the number of unemployed workers, and the city’s unemployment rate through December 2015 suggest that since last April when the first minimum wage hike took effect: a) the city’s employment has fallen by more than 11,000, b) the number of unemployed workers has risen by nearly 5,000, and c) the city’s jobless rate has increased by more than 1 percentage point (all based on BLS’s “not seasonally adjusted basis”). Those figures are based on employment data for the city of Seattle only (not the Seattle MSA or MD), and are available from the BLS website here (data are “not seasonally adjusted”).


How can we be sure that the increase in minimum wage is to blame? Employment in the neighboring suburbs of the city have hit a record high:

Update: The chart below shows that while the city of Seattle experienced a sharp drop in employment of more than 11,000 jobs between April and December last year (light blue line, BLS data available here), employment in Seattle’s neighboring suburbs outside the city limits (the Seattle MSA jobs less Seattle city jobs) increased over that period by nearly 57,000 jobs and reached a new record high in November 2015 before falling slightly in December.

Bottom Line II: Additional evidence showing that while jobs in the city of Seattle were tanking starting last April, employment in the suburbs surrounding Seattle was increasing steadily to a new record high in November. That departure in employment trends: job declines inside the city limits of Seattle compared to increasing employment outside the city limits suggests the possibility that the difference in labor costs could have been a contributing factor.

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If supporters of the $15 minimum wage have an alternate theory, I'm willing to consider it. But the AEI analysis suggests that not only are people losing their jobs, but the creation of new businesses to take up the slack is also lagging.

No one should be surprised by this. You can't repeal the laws of economics simply by waving a magic wand. Mandating wages for employees not based on the dollar value they can bring to a company, but on an arbitrary notion of "fairness" is ignorant and by the time the city fathers figure that out, the self-congratulations for being "progressive" will have faded, and a hollowed out economy will be all that's left.

The American Enterprise Institute blog reveals the not very surprising news that 10 months into Seattle's radical experiment of boosting the minimum wage to $15 an hour over a period of years, the city has suffered the worst job losses since the Great Recession.


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