2 Questions to Shut Up Nauseating Global Warming Prosletysts

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Re: 2 Questions to Shut Up Nauseating Global Warming Proslet

#421 Post by nero » Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:01 pm

chijohnaok wrote:Apologies that this article is a bit dated...
https://www.apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0

U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked
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UN is not a scientist.

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But scientists get it right and do not talk about disaster or catastrophe. ;)

PS. If you know physics enough, you can understand that the more CO2 you put ion the atmosphere, the warmer the climate is. No rocket science needed.
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Re: 2 Questions to Shut Up Nauseating Global Warming Proslet

#422 Post by nelmsm » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:07 pm

Miley Cyrus says she won't have kids because of climate change. I think I'm okay with some climate change if that's the case.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment ... with-fish/
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Re: 2 Questions to Shut Up Nauseating Global Warming Proslet

#423 Post by nelmsm » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:09 pm

Then there is this from Nero's compadres at Turku University saying man's contribution to global warming is miniscule.

https://www.infowars.com/new-finnish-st ... te-change/
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Re: 2 Questions to Shut Up Nauseating Global Warming Proslet

#424 Post by nero » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:41 pm

nelmsm wrote:Then there is this from Nero's compadres at Turku University saying man's contribution to global warming is miniscule.

https://www.infowars.com/new-finnish-st ... te-change/
There is indeed a study No experimental evidence for the significant anthropogenic climate change.
Jyrki Kauppinen, Pekka Malmi wrote: In this paper we will prove that GCM-models used in IPCC report AR5 fail to calculate the influences of the low cloud cover changes on the global temperature. That is why those models give a very small natural temperature change leaving a very large change for the contribution of the green house gases in the observed temperature. This is the reason why IPCC has to use a very large sensitivity to compensate a too small natural component. Further they have to leave out the strong negative feedback due to the clouds in order to magnify the sensitivity. In addition, this paper proves that the changes in the low cloud cover fraction practically control the global temperature.
Everyone know that that clouds warm the the temperature when they don't cool it, and the wind is generated by the trees that swing. That's why wind never blows in Kansas.

But jokes aside, the study does not agree with the observed world. And hence this study will be in the hall of shame of science with the cold fusion. :roll:

The denialists will have their field day for a while, but sooner or later the study will be shot down.

I will sit on my hands like chess player do, and wait.

Have fun. ;)
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Re: 2 Questions to Shut Up Nauseating Global Warming Proslet

#425 Post by nero » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:48 am

And it didn't take long this reverse logic to be shot down.

CLAIM

"During the last hundred years the temperature is increased about 0.1°C because of carbon dioxide. The human contribution was about 0.01°C."

VERDICT

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DETAILS

Flawed Reasoning: The authors' argument claims a correlation between cloud cover/relative humidity and global temperature proves that the former caused the latter without investigating whether they have the relationship backwards.

Inadequate support: The source of their claimed global cloud dataset is not given, and no research on their proposed mechanism for climate change is cited.

Fails to provide correct physical explanation: The manuscript incorrectly claims that the rise of atmospheric carbon dioxide is caused by release from ocean waters. It also provides no explanation for the claim that an increase in relative humidity causes global cooling.

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Warming related to human activities is estimated to be around 1°C over the past century. This document claims to overturn decades of scientific findings but provides neither the source of the data it uses nor the physics responsible for the proposed relationship between clouds and global temperature.
The full article: Non-peer-reviewed manuscript falsely claims natural cloud changes can explain global warming.

So it goes.
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Re: 2 Questions to Shut Up Nauseating Global Warming Proslet

#426 Post by chijohnaok » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:33 pm

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/0 ... te-change/
The Prince of Wales has warned global leaders that if we don’t tackle climate change in 18 months the human race will go extinct.

I am firmly of the view that the next 18 months will decide our ability to keep climate change to survivable levels and to restore nature to the equilibrium we need for our survival.
Hmmm...what about when he said this (back in 2009)?

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#427 Post by nero » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:02 am

chijohnaok wrote:https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/0 ... te-change/
The Prince of Wales has warned global leaders that if we don’t tackle climate change in 18 months the human race will go extinct.

I am firmly of the view that the next 18 months will decide our ability to keep climate change to survivable levels and to restore nature to the equilibrium we need for our survival.
Hmmm...what about when he said this (back in 2009)?

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So says prince Charles. As Arbreitertum reports.

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So? :roll:
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Re: 2 Questions to Shut Up Nauseating Global Warming Prosletysts

#428 Post by chijohnaok » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:35 pm

Dems and other climate activists criticize the US for pulling out of the Paris Accords; for not doing enough.


The reality:
The United States saw the largest decline in energy-related CO2 emissions in 2019 on a country basis – a fall of 140 Mt, or 2.9%, to 4.8 Gt. US emissions are now down almost 1 Gt from their peak in the year 2000, the largest absolute decline by any country over that period. A 15% reduction in the use of coal for power generation underpinned the decline in overall US emissions in 2019. Coal-fired power plants faced even stronger competition from natural gas-fired generation, with benchmark gas prices an average of 45% lower than 2018 levels. As a result, gas increased its share in electricity generation to a record high of 37%. Overall electricity demand declined because demand for air-conditioning and heating was lower as a result of milder summer and winter weather.
Where does that come from?
Breitbart or some other site that Nero would brand as being a “climate denier”?

It comes from a report issued by the International Energy Agency.
https://www.iea.org/articles/global-co2 ... ns-in-2019

Meanwhile, where are emissions going up?

Emissions outside advanced economies grew by close to 400 Mt in 2019, with almost 80% of the increase coming from Asia. In this region, coal demand continued to expand, accounting for over 50% of energy use, and is responsible for around 10 Gt of emissions. In China, emissions rose but were tempered by slower economic growth and higher output from low-carbon sources of electricity. Renewables continued to expand in China, and 2019 was also the first full year of operation for seven large-scale nuclear reactors in the country.

Emissions growth in India was moderate in 2019, with CO2 emissions from the power sector declining slightly as electricity demand was broadly stable and strong renewables growth prompted coal-fired electricity generation to fall for the first time since 1973. Continued growth in fossil-fuel demand in other sectors of the Indian economy, notably transport, offset the decline in the power sector. Emissions grew strongly in Southeast Asia, lifted by robust coal demand.
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Re: 2 Questions to Shut Up Nauseating Global Warming Prosletysts

#429 Post by chijohnaok » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:36 pm

Maybe Greta should get on a low emission train and visit China and India?
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Re: 2 Questions to Shut Up Nauseating Global Warming Prosletysts

#430 Post by nero » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:55 pm

chijohnaok wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:36 pm
Maybe Greta should get on a low emission train and visit China and India?
She is already training.

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