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 Post subject: Re: Illinois: Greece on Lake Michigan
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:19 am 
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What idiot would buy Illinois bonds?


The sad thing about it is that the people who are in the best position to leave IL are probably the ones with the greatest salaries and don't feel much of a bite from the taxes. The poor bastages in East St. Louis and other ruined urban areas are the ones who will pay the greatest proportional tax rates.

I wonder who'd WANT to live in IL? Yuck!

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 Post subject: Re: Illinois: Greece on Lake Michigan
PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:36 pm 
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/colu ... olumn.html

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Column: What to do with a broken Illinois: Dissolve the Land of Lincoln

By John Kass
Chicago Tribune

llinois is like Venezuela now, a fiscally broken state that has lost its will to live, although for the moment, we still have enough toilet paper.

But before we run out of the essentials, let's finally admit that after decade upon decade of taxing and spending and borrowing, Illinois has finally run out of other people's money.

Those "other people" include taxpayers who've abandoned the state. And now Illinois faces doomsday.

So as the politicians meet in Springfield this week for another round of posturing and gesturing and blaming, we need a plan.

And here it is:

Dissolve Illinois. Decommission the state, tear up the charter, whatever the legal mumbo-jumbo, just end the whole dang thing.

We just disappear. With no pain. That's right. You heard me.

The best thing to do is to break Illinois into pieces right now. Just wipe us off the map. Cut us out of America's heartland and let neighboring states carve us up and take the best chunks for themselves.

The group that will scream the loudest is the state's political class, who did this to us, and the big bond creditors, who are whispering talk of bankruptcy and asset forfeiture to save their own skins.

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But our beloved Illinois has proved that it just doesn't deserve to survive.

So why not let our friendly neighbors like Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa, Missouri and Kentucky just take the parts they want?

As you can see by the excellent "Kevorkian Illinois" map that accompanies this column, this plan is visionary.

The alternative is hell. Illinois hasn't had a state budget for years. The state continues to spend money it doesn't have, and the state's credit ratings have dropped, increasing the cost of borrowing more money we don't have to keep the rotten shebang going.

Bills pile up; Moody's Investor Service says taxpayers are on the hook for $251 billion in unfunded public union pension liabilities.

Boss Mike Madigan, king of the Democrats who control things, wants tax increases but no real structural reform to bring stability to The Venezuela of the Midwest.

And the whispers of bankruptcy won't help the average (remaining) taxpaying chumbolones like you and me who don't want to leave our homes but who'll get stuck with the bills.

Since our neighboring states are doing better, taking Illinois jobs and businesses and Illinois workers and taxpaying families, they might as well just take the rest of Illinois, too, dammit.

Wisconsin can have Chicago and begin calling it "South Milwaukee."

Naturally, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel will fight this. He needs a job. And he'll most likely beg his friends at The New York Times and the Washington Post to write angry editorials to save him. And these will be full of concern for the republic and those dispossessed Midwestern salt-of-the-earth taxpaying Americans, as if.

Sadly, Wisconsin probably won't want Rahm, either. So to spare hurt feelings, I propose carving out 40 acres around the mayor's home so Rahm might be prince of his own country:

Rahmonia.

And Cook County Board President Toni "Taxwinkle" Preckwinkle will fight it, too, so she needs something to soothe her ambitions:

A grant of land as large as a case of the soda pop she taxes, so that she might stand on it and proclaim herself Queen of Taxwinkletopia.

If there are portions of Illinois that the other states don't want, they may be left as federal territory, a wilderness where only the strong survive and peasants and friendly propagandists kneel and beg for crumbs. You already know the name of this wasteland:

Madiganistan.

And in return for taking care of our politicians, Wisconsin will probably demand assets. Like the Milwaukee Cubs. The Beloit Blackhawks. The Sheboygan Bulls and the Fond du Lac Bears.

Indiana may want a large curvy slice of the former Illinois, so the state will be shaped more like a basketball. This will please Hoosiers to no end.

And Indiana also gets the Indianapolis White Sox and the hottest soccer team in America, the Indianapolis Fire.

Why not? Indiana is a great state, with friendly people and Mitch Daniels and Kilroy's in Bloomington.

Iowa can have part of the west. Missouri may also get a small piece. Kentucky can take southern Illinois, considering many on both sides of the border share Kentucky DNA, as did Abraham Lincoln.

A colleague told me he had reservations about sharing Illinois with the Bluegrass State.

"I wouldn't give Kentucky anything because A) it's the South and the former Illinois needs to stay in the Midwest, and B) their state government is a mess, too, with a governor who refuses to talk to certain reporters."

But beggars can't be choosers. If Illinois is dissolved as planned, we won't have a say in anything.

And though some in Kentucky might not respect "the media," the state does have excellent bourbon. I would allow Kentucky to send me countless barrels of its fine sipping spirit so that I might hold it in escrow, to make sure everything goes as planned.

I promise to sip their bourbon and light a cigar, and hum a few sad bars from that song of the former Illinois that no one sings anymore:

By thy rivers gently flowing, Illinois, Illinois

O'er thy prairies verdant growing, Illinois, Illinois

Comes an echo on the breeze, rustling through the leafy trees, Boss Madigan has us on our knees, Illinois, Illinois

Boss Madigan has us on our knees, Illinois.


Listen to the Chicago Way podcast — with John Kass and Jeff Carlin — and our guest, Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart, here: wgnradio.com/category/wgn-plus/thechicagoway.

jskass@chicagotribune.com




John Kass is the resident smartass at the Chicago Tribune......and ya gotta love him for it ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: Illinois: Greece on Lake Michigan
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Gallows laughter from my side ... at least some folks can still write something that is halfway entertaining !

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 Post subject: Re: Illinois: Greece on Lake Michigan
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WTF, It looks like he's trying to slough off East St. Louis to Missouri!? I can tell you they will NOT settle for that. Either Kentucky takes it, or Missouri will back out on any deal.

Also, Wisconsin is getting WAAAYY more than everyone else. Just the scrap iron and recyclables from Chicago, much less enslaving the population should increase Wisconsin's coffers by an order of magnitude.

I still like the idea of walling in the entire state and turning it into an outlaw zone. We could empty out the prisons and just turn it into a free-for-all. Would give our anti-terrorist troops a place to keep in practice . . . Could sell expensive safari tours to hunt down former Chicago bureacrats and "statespeople."

Just make sure Obama and Moochelle are inside before the wall is sealed up.

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 Post subject: Re: Illinois: Greece on Lake Michigan
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Most of Illinois is fine ... just need to wall off Chicago ... and maybe Urbana ...

No body will want Chicago ...

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 Post subject: Re: Illinois: Greece on Lake Michigan
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Maybe let Chicago go wild..sort of like Detroit. Stop policing and trash collection. No utilities. No government checks. No EBT cards. Place would clear out pretty fast once all the twinkies and ammo ran out. There would be coyotes and deer inside of a month...black bears hunting trash...elk and wolves in 3-4 years. Eagles nesting on the Sears Tower..perfect because Sears won't be needing it pretty soon.

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jack t ripper wrote:
Maybe let Chicago go wild..sort of like Detroit. Stop policing and trash collection. No utilities. No government checks. No EBT cards. Place would clear out pretty fast once all the twinkies and ammo ran out. There would be coyotes and deer inside of a month...black bears hunting trash...elk and wolves in 3-4 years. Eagles nesting on the Sears Tower..perfect because Sears won't be needing it pretty soon.



As info, Sears sold the building in 1994, totally moved out in 1995.
The building has been known as the "Willis Tower" since 2009.

As for the city by the lake, Rahm Emanuel will not allow Rahmonia to go down easily.

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Speaking of the City by the Lake ... I really hope they do this movie ... I found the book to be an interesting read ... almost like two books woven into one ... the story of the building of the White City ... and the life of same ... woven together with the "ripper like" story of the bad guy and his activities ...

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/the-devil-in-the-white-city-film-martin-scorsese-leonardo-dicaprio-hh-holmes-serial-killer-movie-a7486186.html

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I love the history of 19C Chicago ... the whole idea of a city in the swamp ... as a joining point between the Mississippi traffic and the Great Lakes traffic .... it was not a natural thing ... this was a MAN MADE city ... and it had many hinterlands ... economic feeder areas ... in a very short time it become one of the economic power houses of the world ... with no existence at all before the mid-1800s ... an amazing story ... we had to study Chicago in US History class, part of the general requirements of the Military History program at KU.

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jwilkerson wrote:
Speaking of the City by the Lake ... I really hope they do this movie ... I found the book to be an interesting read ... almost like two books woven into one ... the story of the building of the White City ... and the life of same ... woven together with the "ripper like" story of the bad guy and his activities ...

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/the-devil-in-the-white-city-film-martin-scorsese-leonardo-dicaprio-hh-holmes-serial-killer-movie-a7486186.html



I have read that book. It is an excellent tale. I would recommend it.

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