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 Post subject: Re: Universal Voter Registration
PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:51 pm 
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It would be better if the minorities would not vote. So make their voting as difficult as possible. -- GOP.

It would be a much better country if women did not vote. That is simply a fact. -- Ann Coulter.

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Coulter is right. The other one you made up.

Yes, I made it up. Inspired from North Dakota shenanigans to block injuns to vote. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Voter Registration
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:11 pm 
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... ster-vote/

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Texas Dems ask noncitizens to register to vote, send applications with citizenship box pre-checked

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By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Thursday, October 18, 2018

The Texas Democratic Party asked non-citizens to register to vote, sending out applications to immigrants with the box citizenship already checked “Yes,” according to new complaints filed Thursday asking prosecutors to see what laws may have been broken.

The Public Interest Legal Foundation alerted district attorneys and the federal Justice Department to the pre-checked applications, and also included a signed affidavit from a man who said some of his relatives, who aren’t citizens, received the mailing.

“This is how the Texas Democratic Party is inviting foreign influence in an election in a federal election cycle,” said Logan Churchwell, spokesman for the PILF, a group that’s made its mark policing states’ voter registration practices.

The Texas secretary of state’s office said it, too, had gotten complaints both from immigrants and from relatives of dead people who said they got mailings asking them to register.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott vowed to investigate.

“If true there will be serious consequences,” he said.

The PILF publicly released complaints it sent to Hidalgo and Starr counties asking for an investigation. The organization also provided copies of pre-marked voter applications and the affidavit from the man who said his non-citizen relatives received the mailing.

The applications were pre-addressed to elections officials, which is likely what left many voters to believe they were receiving an official communication from the state.

But the return address was from the State Democratic Executive Committee, and listed an address in Austin that matches the state Democratic Party’s headquarters.


The letter is emblazoned with “Urgent! Your voter registration deadline is October 9.” It continues: “Your voter registration application is inside. Complete, sign and return it today!”

On the application, boxes affirming the applicant is both 18 and a U.S. citizen are already checked with an “X” in the Yes field.

The mailing also urges those who are unsure if they’re registered to “Mail it in.”

A person answering phones at the state party declined to connect The Washington Times with any officials there, insisting that a reporter email questions. That email went unanswered.

Sam Taylor, spokesman for Texas’s secretary of state, said they heard from people whose relatives were receiving mail despite having passed away 10 years ago or longer. One woman said her child, who’d been dead 19 years, got a mailing asking to register.

“It looks like a case of really bad information they are using to send out these mailers,” Mr. Taylor said.

He said some of the non-citizens who called wondered whether there had been some change that made them now legally able to vote despite not being citizens.

Mr. Taylor said there is a state law against encouraging someone to falsify a voter application, but it would be up to investigators to decide if pre-checking a box rose to that level.

PILF has been pushing state election officials in recent years to be wary of non-citizens who manage to register and, in many cases, to actually cast ballots. The organization has found thousands of people who later admitted they weren’t citizens, but who managed to register or vote in New Jersey, Virginia, North Carolina and Pennsylvania

The organization is also embroiled in a legal battle with Harris County, Texas, which has declined to provide PILF with similar voter data.

PILF says usually the origin of non-citizens voting is motor vehicle bureaus, where people are pressed to register — and often ignore or miss the admonition that they must be citizens.

In this case, though, the invitations were sent directly by a political party.

The data from North Carolina suggests that non-citizens who vote skew decidedly Democratic, based on their pattern of voting in Democratic primaries.

The affidavit PILF provided to prosecutors Thursday is from David C. Kifuri Jr.

He said “several relatives” of his who are legal permanent residents but not citizens got the mailing, and were confused. He said in his affidavit he told them to report the mailing to local authorities and not to fill it out any further.


The Hidalgo County election office said it forwards all applications that arrive to the state for processing. Officials can’t tell whether something was pre-checked or not when it got to the applicant.

A county elections spokeswoman couldn’t say whether pre-checking the citizenship box was legal.

Mr. Churchwell, though, said it crosses lines because prosecutors looking into whether someone illegally registered to vote need to be able to see the intent of the applicant, and a pre-checked box defeats that.

Mr. Churchwell said the party was putting immigrants in a tough position, as evidenced by the number of them who were calling state officials wondering if there’s been some change allowing them to vote.

“The victims will actually be the non-citizens,” he said.

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Voter Registration
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:25 pm 
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Saw someone tweet that the GOP should use this to examine every Dem win in the state, what few there may be.

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Saw someone tweet that the GOP should use this to examine every Dem win in the state, what few there may be.


Austin is a Dem enclave right? Maybe Houston partly?

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Voter Registration
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:23 pm 
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In North Dakota the injuns can not vote because they have no street address.

Is that fair, is that legal?

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Voter Registration
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:47 pm 
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In North Dakota the injuns can not vote because they have no street address.

Is that fair, is that legal?


WRONG.

From the North Dakota Secretary of State's office:

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If you encounter anyone who says to you that they do not have a residential street address to
provide to either the DOT or the tribal government to obtain an ID, please encourage them to
reach out to the 911 Coordinator in the county in which their residence exists to start the simple
process to have the address assigned. The North Dakota Association of Counties maintains a
list of all 53 County 911 Coordinators. A simple phone call to this individual can start this no
charge process that can usually be completed in an hour or less when the individual can describe
the location of the home. After the address is assigned, the office assigning it will provide a letter
upon request that confirms this new address. This letter can be used either to obtain an ID or as
supplemental documentation for voting purposes for those individuals whose ID includes a mailing
address rather than a residential address. It is worth noting that in some counties the
responsibility of assigning addresses is completed by an office other than the 911 Coordinator;
however, the 911 Coordinator will be able to connect the individual to that other office and the
process will still be no charge and quick

You can read the entire letter here:

https://vip.sos.nd.gov/pdfs/Portals/Vot ... embers.pdf

Oh, and by the way, the Supreme Court decision that allowed North Dakota to move forward with its Voter ID requirement was approved by a 6-2 decision.
Kavanaugh did not vote and 2 of the court's 'liberal' justices voted with the majority.
https://bismarcktribune.com/news/state- ... ef2fe.html

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According to Jaeger, voters whose state-issued ID does not contain their current address do not have to obtain a replacement card. However, he said they must update their residential address with the Department of Transportation at http://www.dot.nd.gov or by calling 701-328-4353. The address change will then be updated in the state’s central voter file and then in the poll books used at precinct polling locations, Jaeger said.

As for those with only a post office box on their license or ID card, including tribal or U.S. Bureau of Indian Affairs identification, Jaeger said they can vote if they provide a residential address with a current utility bill, bank statement, paycheck or any other document with a current address and date of birth.


Part of the reason why a valid PO Box number as a residential address was not valid:
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He emphasized that using only a post office box did not establish the residential address of the voter.

Thus, he said, it could lead voters to the wrong precinct polling place if they had only a post office box.


Also, the issue was not just limited to "injuns":
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He said that it’s not only a problem with some Native Americans who only have post office boxes on their tribal IDs. As another example, he said it could be an oil field worker who only had a post office box in the state on his ID.

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Voter Registration
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:17 pm 
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chijohnaok wrote:
nero wrote:
In North Dakota the injuns can not vote because they have no street address.

Is that fair, is that legal?


WRONG.

From the North Dakota Secretary of State's office:

Quote:
If you encounter anyone who says to you that they do not have a residential street address to
provide to either the DOT or the tribal government to obtain an ID, please encourage them to
reach out to the 911 Coordinator in the county in which their residence exists to start the simple
process to have the address assigned. The North Dakota Association of Counties maintains a
list of all 53 County 911 Coordinators. A simple phone call to this individual can start this no
charge process that can usually be completed in an hour or less when the individual can describe
the location of the home. After the address is assigned, the office assigning it will provide a letter
upon request that confirms this new address. This letter can be used either to obtain an ID or as
supplemental documentation for voting purposes for those individuals whose ID includes a mailing
address rather than a residential address. It is worth noting that in some counties the
responsibility of assigning addresses is completed by an office other than the 911 Coordinator;
however, the 911 Coordinator will be able to connect the individual to that other office and the
process will still be no charge and quick

You can read the entire letter here:

https://vip.sos.nd.gov/pdfs/Portals/Vot ... embers.pdf

Oh, and by the way, the Supreme Court decision that allowed North Dakota to move forward with its Voter ID requirement was approved by a 6-2 decision.
Kavanaugh did not vote and 2 of the court's 'liberal' justices voted with the majority.
https://bismarcktribune.com/news/state- ... ef2fe.html

Also from this same article:

Quote:
According to Jaeger, voters whose state-issued ID does not contain their current address do not have to obtain a replacement card. However, he said they must update their residential address with the Department of Transportation at http://www.dot.nd.gov or by calling 701-328-4353. The address change will then be updated in the state’s central voter file and then in the poll books used at precinct polling locations, Jaeger said.

As for those with only a post office box on their license or ID card, including tribal or U.S. Bureau of Indian Affairs identification, Jaeger said they can vote if they provide a residential address with a current utility bill, bank statement, paycheck or any other document with a current address and date of birth.


Part of the reason why a valid PO Box number as a residential address was not valid:
Quote:
He emphasized that using only a post office box did not establish the residential address of the voter.

Thus, he said, it could lead voters to the wrong precinct polling place if they had only a post office box.


Also, the issue was not just limited to "injuns":
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He said that it’s not only a problem with some Native Americans who only have post office boxes on their tribal IDs. As another example, he said it could be an oil field worker who only had a post office box in the state on his ID.

The injuns could vote earlier, by auto registration. And now they have to do something extra to vote.

In the same way every person in ND should prove that they do not live on the other side of the street. Without doing that, they can not vote.

Shenanigans. :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Universal Voter Registration
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:21 pm 
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Nero, I suggest you write a letter to the US Supreme Court and explain to them, in detail, why their decision was legally incorrect.

PS: Be sure to EXCLUDE Kavanaugh in your letter since he did not participate in this case.

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Shenanigans


Stop misappropriating my culture, nero. Thanks, dude.


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 Post subject: Re: Universal Voter Registration
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It occurs to me, we probably should be thankful for Nemo. He keeps us apprised of all the idiocy being passed off as "important breaking news" by the leftalitarian propaganda feeds.

The Doghouse, and all of our lived experiences would be much impoverished but for his persistent efforts.

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