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I was for gays in the priesthood, why because reason told me a gay priest wasn't a danger But...!

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If Jesus came back today, based on what I know about the dude, I have a VERY hard time imagining that he would either (a) be in favor of clergy of ANY of his churches being required to remain celibate for any appreciable amounts of time; (b) be in favor of stigmatizing, or otherwise oppressing any particular adult-adult consensual sexuality or gender.

Sexual contact with minors or others whose capacity for full fledged consent is impaired or incomplete, I think Jesus would be totally opposed to that, and insist on some form of temporal justice and restitution. Certainly he would demand that a corrupt oligarchy which sought to conceal or obstruct revelations about the truth about an epidemic of such crime among clergy be subjected to extraordinary investigation; I mean, wasn't that basically why he got in trouble with the Romans and the Jews, for pointing out their corruption and hypocrisy?

Hate to say it Abrad, but from my standpoint as a secular humanist who does not "believe" in any supernatural status for Jesus of Nazareth, but acknowledges he likely was a real guy of extraordinary charisma and wisdom whose worldly deeds were so exceptional that they spawned the most humane of major world religions which so far as existed: Catholicism lost its way, which would seem primarily to be to teach the wisdom of that Jesus fellow and spread HIS vision, long, long ago. Probably sometime shortly after Justinian?

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 Post subject: Re: 301 ‘Predator Priests’ Named In Pa. Grand Jury Sex Abuse
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Reply over all is here viewtopic.php?f=7&t=20696

This thread is about church corruption.

OK, what about Gays and corruption in the church.
Try this viewtopic.php?p=337690#p337690

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Hear, hear!

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At about 3:00 there's a bit that sounds like something an originalist might say about interpreting our constitution.

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Polling and Analysis
October 2, 2018
Confidence in Pope Francis Down Sharply in U.S.

By a two-to-one margin, American Catholics now give Francis negative marks for his handling of the sex abuse scandal

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http://www.pewforum.org/2018/10/02/conf ... ly-in-u-s/

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Pope Francis arrives for the second morning session of the Synod of bishops on the Family at the Vatican on October 6, 2015. AFP PHOTO / ANDREAS SOLARO (Photo credit should read ANDREAS SOLARO/AFP/Getty Images)
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The Catholic bishops are gathering in Rome for a synod in a moment in which “the Church faces perhaps its gravest crisis since the Protestant Reformation in the form of the worldwide clerical sexual abuse scandals,” according to veteran Vatican analyst John L. Allen, Jr.

Allen, who heads up the Catholic online news outlet Crux, added that “the eyes of the Catholic world will be on how they choose to engage it.”

Much of this will depend on Pope Francis, since he currently seems to be the Church’s biggest obstacle to tackling the sex abuse crisis head-on. He has repeatedly refused to confirm or deny allegations that he knowingly rehabilitated serial homosexual abuser Cardinal Theodore McCarrick and elevated him to a position of influence in the Vatican.

Moreover, the United States bishops have petitioned the pope to launch an “apostolic visitation” — a full Vatican investigation — into the McCarrick case, which so far has fallen on deaf ears. The president of the U.S. Bishops Conference (USCCB), Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, followed up on the petition by traveling to Rome last month to urge Francis to open the investigation but returned to the U.S. empty-handed.

Wednesday was the opening day of the Vatican Synod of Bishops on youth, and, according to Allen, it may well be “the most significant summit so far on this pope’s watch.”

“The clerical abuse crisis has badly damaged the Church’s moral credibility, made it difficult to move the ball on anything else the Church cares about, and called into question the standing and personal integrity of Church leaders at all levels,” Allen noted.

“Inside the Church and out, there’s a level of anger and disillusionment that’s crippling,” he said.
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We've a major problem and what is the Vatican doing?

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Shit will hit the fan once this happens down here. It is gonna get ugly quick.


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