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 Post subject: Battlefield 5 Controversy
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 1:00 pm 
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I didn't know that British women with robot arms fought on the frontlines of WW2. I guess I need to read more books...

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Battlefield V fans who failed history are mad that the game has women in it

Has anyone here read a book?



DICE is returning to World War II with Battlefield V, and it’s doing so with the help of feeemales. Following the game’s reveal trailer and confirmation that it will include women, some fragile fans have confirmed they’ve never read a book by protesting what they see as “historical inaccuracy.” Please, keep your women out of my war games!

Online, this infantile cry has rallied around its own hashtag — #NotMyBattlefield — and it is full of users shrieking about political correctness. “Hey...good job making a shitty unrealistic SJW ‘WWII’ game!” wrote one on Twitter. “Seen the downvotes on your YouTube trailer video? You have til October to fix this shit and give us a realistic gritty WWII experience.” “Very disappointed with the new Battlefield trailer,” wrote another. “Blatant disregard for historical events and mindless political correctness. Sad to see a much loved franchise fall apart.” On YouTube and the game’s subreddit, the comments aren’t much better. “Genderfield V,” complains one, while another whines about “gender fluid mouth breathers in Sweden [shitting] out a revisionist history SJW game shitting on everything people like my grandpa fought for.”

It’s laughable to think that any modern video game based on a war is “historically accurate,” but even in this case, Battlefield isn’t off the mark. Women did fight in World War II, from the air force units known as the “Night Witches,” to secret agents like Nancy Wake. Lyudmila Pavlichenko is hailed as the most successful female sniper in history, as well as one of the top military snipers of all time with a credited 309 kills. Wanda Gertz began her military career during World War I and later commanded an all-female battalion in World War II. Young women enlisted in combat roles across the world. That a single British woman in the game’s reveal trailer has Battlefield players so riled up is willful ignorance that such a role could have ever existed in history.

"Battlefield has abandoned historical accuracy for political correctness" pic.twitter.com/OpCRFV2zV8
— David Milner (@DaveMilbo) May 23, 2018

This ugly, familiar line of thinking reared its head before when DICE dared to put a black man on the cover of Battlefield 1. #NotMyBattlefield is more of the same, a chance for these angry contingents to push against what they view as a bastardization of the series. But as the hashtag itself says, it’s not theirs. Battlefield V is yet another example of a game, a movie, a TV show, a cultural touchpoint that young, angry white men want to claim as their own. Fans have no ownership over the things they love. Battlefield players don’t get to decide what belongs or doesn’t belong in Battlefield V. As executive producer Aleksander Grøndal said on Twitter, “We will always put fun over authentic.”

https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/24/1738 ... -2-history



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 Post subject: Re: Battlefield 5 Controversy
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World War 2.

Great. I'm sure everyone will manage to run around with an automatic weapon or sniper rifle just like BF1.

Sounds fun. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Battlefield 5 Controversy
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 1:33 pm 
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I rarely play first person shooter games.
I've never played BF.

I played Payday 2 on Steam for a very short period (my Steam shows 2 hours back in 2014) which I think would be considered as a first person shooter.

I have a lot of hours in on Naval Action and World of Warships but in those you are controlling an entire ship, so I would not consider that as "first person shooter".

At the end of the day players should decide whether they like a game or not. If the developers include or add features that the player doesn't like, then they can always just stop playing.

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 Post subject: Re: Battlefield 5 Controversy
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So, the whole "controversy" might be a tempest in a teapot: EA DICE is NOT courting politically-correct historical revisionism by writing female, aka "Wahmen," avatars into a frontline WWII infantry combat role. They are merely recognizing the important contribution made by the 1940s Transgenders, aka "Whoa!_Aman!?" to the allied victory over Fascists.

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 Post subject: Re: Battlefield 5 Controversy
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Spot the differences. Actually you can't, you bigot.

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chijohnaok wrote:
At the end of the day players should decide whether they like a game or not. If the developers include or add features that the player doesn't like, then they can always just stop playing.

Right now they are expressing their disapproval by hitting the dislike button on the official reveal trailer youtube vid. 161k dislikes and rising.

I think people are just getting sick of sjw crap being inserted into video games the same way they have been in tv shows and movies. The general attitude seems to be one of "for fucks sakes, can't we just have somethings to ourselves." And by people I mean white male gamers. ;)

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chijohnaok wrote:
At the end of the day players should decide whether they like a game or not. If the developers include or add features that the player doesn't like, then they can always just stop playing.

Right now they are expressing their disapproval by hitting the dislike button on the official reveal trailer youtube vid. 161k dislikes and rising.

I think people are just getting sick of sjw crap being inserted into video games the same way they have been in tv shows and movies. The general attitude seems to be one of "for fucks sakes, can't we just have somethings to ourselves." And by people I mean white male gamers. ;)


My bold emphasis above.

Yeah, I totally understand and agree with you.

So what are the possibilities here?
----give the game a solo PVE mode where you are only playing against the computer and have a "historical" setting which will screen out all the SJW crap
----Allow a player to create their own "skins" to allow them to change the appearance of other characters in a multiplayer mode (this would change the way that THEY see another character but would not change the way that character's real player would see them--this could still prove troublesome in text/voice interactions between the characters
---some developer create their own products/platform that would specifically cater to the people that are adamant about historical reality. This of course could result in that developer having trouble when it comes time to raise capital/funding for their game development as the SJWs would likely brand such a developer/company as "Nazi/racists", which would discourage funding

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 Post subject: Re: Battlefield 5 Controversy
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I hated the trailer. Battlefield games have never been very faithful to history though so I doubt the fact that they add women or tactical V1 rockets or whatever unhistoric elements will much reduces sales.


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You guys are a pack of male chauvinist pigs 8-)

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This is what you get when Swedes are allowed to make games.

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