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 Post subject: Re: Another Paris Terror Attack
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:12 pm 
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abradley wrote:
Only one way to end the Muslim scourge ... convert.


We convert to Islam or they convert away from Islam?

Because religions conversion among Westerners is daily common/easy, while conversion out of Islam is by law in some countries and by custom in others punishable by death.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Paris Terror Attack
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:14 pm 
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I figure that sometime in the next 10 years or so some Jihadi camel shagging group will get their hands on a working nuke and set it off in a major city somewhere. Either truck smuggled into Europe or more than likely in a container on board a ship unloading in Baltimore, New York, or Houston. Then I think you'll see the resolve of most of the Western World to eliminate the Muslim extremists in the world and to quickly roach stomp any that pop their heads up thereafter.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Paris Terror Attack
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:47 pm 
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chijohnaok wrote:
abradley wrote:
Only one way to end the Muslim scourge ... convert.


We convert to Islam or they convert away from Islam?

Because religions conversion among Westerners is daily common/easy, while conversion out of Islam is by law in some countries and by custom in others punishable by death.
I don't have the answer to 'how to convert?' There's probable not one answer.

Maybe the famous 'Sex, Drugs, and Rock n Roll' contains the answer, not necessarily in that form. Attack the weakest spot in their defensive armor ... teens, especially male teens.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Paris Terror Attack
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 4:06 pm 
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Not sure how well the “sex drugs and rock & roll” thing is going to really work on Muslim teen males. Yes, they may listen to it, participate in sex (either voluntarily, rape or grooming on white teens girls) but then still maintain that they are Muslims.

Don’t forget that the 9/11 hijackers went out to strip clubs and drank alcohol shortly before 9/11. Those Western degenerative activities didn’t impede their jihadist attacks.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Paris Terror Attack
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 4:21 pm 
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chijohnaok wrote:
Not sure how well the “sex drugs and rock & roll” thing is going to really work on Muslim teen males. Yes, they may listen to it, participate in sex (either voluntarily, rape or grooming on white teens girls) but then still maintain that they are Muslims.

Don’t forget that the 9/11 hijackers went out to strip clubs and drank alcohol shortly before 9/11. Those Western degenerative activities didn’t impede their jihadist attacks.
For a preview look at our western liberal societies since the 60's.

Have you been in Saudi on a Fri/Sat nite, rather like the Southern Baptist towns of my youth ... nowhereville. Then the cracks started appearing like the Saudi Prince's reforms.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Paris Terror Attack
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My understanding is that Iran is pretty much a powder keg. Prior to the fall of the Shah, Iran was fairly secular and "western." There is a lot of oppressed dissent, and all the complex intrigues, back-stabbing, and fair-weather allegiances that that type of arrangement promotes. It is too simplistic to imagine a "citizen class" versus a "ruler/cleric class" with the citizens being unwilling servants to the Islamist agenda of the rulers; but that model is far _more_ accurate than one in which the majority of Iranians are devout believers in the theocratic agenda. The same is true to varying degrees throughout the Islamic world, but in many cases (Iraq, Syria, Egypt, probably many of the Gulf States, and north Africa) a multi-generation history of Sunni-Shia fighting and inter-clan feuds are even more important for understanding the prevailing social dynamics.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Paris Terror Attack
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A mistake we made, we, the West, was that we fought secular Arab regims, mainly because they were pro USSR during the Cold war, or because we saw them as anti-democratic. You can say what you want about people like Saddam or Khadafi, or Al Assad, they were a good way to control the radical Islamists. We prefered Saudi Arabia and its radicalism to those secular regimes.

It is true that in the past Khadafi or others used terror attacks against the West. But after the Cold War they quietened down. The best example is Khadafi, we should have let him at the head of Libya, even if the price was the death of many people.


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LaPalice wrote:
A mistake we made, we, the West, was that we fought secular Arab regims, mainly because they were pro USSR during the Cold war, or because we saw them as anti-democratic. You can say what you want about people like Saddam or Khadafi, or Al Assad, they were a good way to control the radical Islamists. We prefered Saudi Arabia and its radicalism to those secular regimes.

It is true that in the past Khadafi or others used terror attacks against the West. But after the Cold War they quietened down. The best example is Khadafi, we should have let him at the head of Libya, even if the price was the death of many people.



I’m not sure that I agree with your first paragraph but I do agree with your second paragraph.

I don’t necessarily fault who we supported during the Cold War.

Supporting the fall of Khadaffy in Libya was certainly a mistake.

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 Post subject: Re: Another Paris Terror Attack
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DO NOT BE ALARMED, THIS IS NOT A TERROR ATTACK

That said, a man was robbed of his mobile phone on the streets in Paris, and then they ripped the gold teeth out of his mouth:

https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/0 ... o-go-zone/

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