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 Post subject: Re: Trump invites Putin to Whitehouse
PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:43 pm 
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... labels like "anti-Semitic" are bad ...


Haha, you show your age!!! :D

These days, "Anti-Semites" are the rage ... well, as long as the semites are hebes ...


Actually, the term is apparently a bit of a misnomer. Jew-hater is what it really was intended to mean all along, and the guy who came up with it was a French academic who thought it sounded cool to refer to the whole linguistic group. But antipathy towards any of the "Semitic" languages/cultures was actually never really intended by the term; only the Hebrews/Jews.

Have been on a bit of a "Nazi rise to power" spree here lately and the question of "how did they come up with these crazy ass ideas about the Jews being root of all evil." Turns out, the Nazis didn't "come up with them at all;" something I was already aware of but which has been very much highlighted by my recent inquiries. Jew-Hatred is at least 800 years old in Western Europe and probably much older than that.

American-hatred is much newer and seems to arise out of both similar and distinctive reasons. Envy of success, envy of autonomy and independence, envy of an "other" with a strong internally-binding conception of its "special status" vis a vis all other groups: those all seem to be common to both Jew-Hatred and American-Hatred.

Fantasies about global domination conspiracies, secret societies, cryptic wickedness and immorality: also seem common those less so.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump invites Putin to Whitehouse
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The crackpots at /pol/ 4chan are mostly Jew haters - appears to be the politically correct thing over there. Americans seem to be so to a lesser degree, and get ridiculed for being "Jew lovers" by that board's European participants...


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 Post subject: Re: Trump invites Putin to Whitehouse
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:58 am 
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... Have been on a bit of a "Nazi rise to power" spree here lately and the question of "how did they come up with these crazy ass ideas about the Jews being root of all evil." Turns out, the Nazis didn't "come up with them at all;" something I was already aware of but which has been very much highlighted by my recent inquiries. Jew-Hatred is at least 800 years old in Western Europe and probably much older than that ...


Haha, yes, I wrote a paper on that topic in High School ...

Of course it starts with the christians being upset about the jews killing hay sue ...

and it never stops ... so it is ~2000 years old ...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Gottlieb_Fichte

And this was the main source I used for the paper ... a translated copy was in our high school library !!! :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Roots_of_National_Socialism

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 Post subject: Re: Trump invites Putin to Whitehouse
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... But antipathy towards any of the "Semitic" languages/cultures was actually never really intended by the term; only the Hebrews/Jews ...


Well, I am olde school ... and in the olde school ... we believe words have meanings ... and we use the words with the meanings the words have ... though we note the meanings change over time ... especially in the last 20 years !!! :D

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