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 Post subject: Re: Italian election explained
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:56 pm 
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Trump has a strange way doing away with all tariffs. :roll:

'It became necessary to have more tariffs to do away with all tariffs' -- Ronald I. Hump.

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What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

If they want to play protectionist trade politics, then they shouldn't complain when they receive the same in return. It's about time we got some non-politician with balls enough to say enough is enough. Someone who actually cares more about making good deals rather than just making one to claim a false victory for making bad ones.

I have no doubts the same would be done by the others if the roles were reversed. They already actively did so.

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 Post subject: Re: Italian election explained
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:02 pm 
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If the CETA was dead, that would be a good thing.

Italy won't ratify EU free-trade deal with Canada: farm minister

MILAN (Reuters) - Italy will not ratify the European Union’s free trade agreement with Canada, its new agriculture minister said on Thursday, ratcheting up an international trade spat and potentially scuppering the EU’s biggest accord in years.

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See, that is a good example for why the UK is best served by Brexit.
IIRC that deal between Canada and the EU took eight (8) years to finalize.
In fact I thought that it was already a done deal:
https://news.vice.com/en_ca/article/ned ... kes-effect

So the UK (or theoretically any other EU member) waits 8 fricken years for a trade deal and then one member can shitcan the whole thing at the last minute.

I have no doubt that the UK would be able to, on its own, negotiate a trade deal with Canada or most any other (non-EU) country in a quarter of that time (or less).

It took eight years because the EU is not a single nation, as the eurocrats think, but 28. So it was necessary to make a deal with 28 different nations, not one. And those 28 different nations can have different interests, despite again what the eurocrats think, so it can be complicate to make a deal with one side when in fact there are 28 sides.

That said, it is a good thing in my opinion is there is not trade agreement, at least one like the CETA. But if the British want one, it is their right. I remember the news when the agreement was signed, and apparently the Germans were the people in Europe who were the most against it. The French were more or less indifferent, I guess because in France our media are not as good as in Germany.


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 Post subject: Re: Italian election explained
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:17 pm 
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It took eight years because the EU is not a single nation, as the eurocrats think, but 28. So it was necessary to make a deal with 28 different nations, not one. And those 28 different nations can have different interests, despite again what the eurocrats think, so it can be complicate to make a deal with one side when in fact there are 28 sides.


Understood...and that is why I said that Britain would be better off negotiating deals on their own:
----they can do the deals in less time
----they can tailor the deal to include those items that are in their own best interests. Only 2 nations need to agree or disagree--the British and the country that they are negotiating with

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