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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:27 am 
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This is a good review what to expect.



La catastrofe totale.

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John Oliver does a video about Italy being a political mess.

Ho hum....that’s like making a video about the sun rising in the east and thinking that is somehow new and remarkable.

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John Oliver does a video about Italy being a political mess.

Ho hum....that’s like making a video about the sun rising in the east and thinking that is somehow new and remarkable.

I am waiting for the trumpa bunga alliance between the two great pussy grabbers. :lol:

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Except when Trump gets elected there is a tax cut and the repatriation of 2/3rd $Trillion

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So the Sneero take-away on Italian politics is "Trump stinks"? :roll:

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So the Sneero take-away on Italian politics is "Trump stinks"? :roll:


I know. Who could've imagined?

Using a Demo-media's faux news comedian stooge as the suppository.

Heavy Italian commentary, I'm sure. :P

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European democracies become more and more ungovernable. It is the case of Spain where there is no real majority, it is the case of Germany where the coalition is weak, and it will be the case in Italy tomorrow certainly.

It seems that parliamentary democracies does not work any more. If France still works, it is because it is a presidential democracy, otherwise it would be the same situation as the other EU democracies.


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LaPalice wrote:
European democracies become more and more ungovernable. It is the case of Spain where there is no real majority, it is the case of Germany where the coalition is weak, and it will be the case in Italy tomorrow certainly.

It seems that parliamentary democracies does not work any more. If France still works, it is because it is a presidential democracy, otherwise it would be the same situation as the other EU democracies.



Well, perhaps they could reconsider the "Reichsfuhrer" democracy variant. ;-)

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European democracies become more and more ungovernable. It is the case of Spain where there is no real majority, it is the case of Germany where the coalition is weak, and it will be the case in Italy tomorrow certainly.

It seems that parliamentary democracies does not work any more. If France still works, it is because it is a presidential democracy, otherwise it would be the same situation as the other EU democracies.


The split multi-party systems in Europe just look like chaos to me.

Chaos that encourages too many dirty backroom deals, to divide up power, between parties. Which, I would think, just encourages more of the trend toward a class of bureaucratic aristocracy. Who are the only ones ever making it to the 'democratic' ballots. Dealing with each other to carve up their own slices of ruling territory.

Sure, we see that here in the States, but at least the two major parties try to oppose one another fairly regularly. Far from perfect, but at least it's predictable - if the media propaganda is taken at it's true value (trash).

People, here, complain about having only two major parties & not liking either one much. However, the end result looks to be the same judging by multi-party European governments. Because people are still not happy with those and, as earlier mentioned, they're still generally only seeing the gov't aristocrats on ballots, no?

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LaPalice wrote:
European democracies become more and more ungovernable. It is the case of Spain where there is no real majority, it is the case of Germany where the coalition is weak, and it will be the case in Italy tomorrow certainly.

It seems that parliamentary democracies does not work any more. If France still works, it is because it is a presidential democracy, otherwise it would be the same situation as the other EU democracies.


The split multi-party systems in Europe just look like chaos to me.

Chaos that encourages too many dirty backroom deals, to divide up power, between parties. Which, I would think, just encourages more of the trend toward a class of bureaucratic aristocracy. Who are the only ones ever making it to the 'democratic' ballots. Dealing with each other to carve up their own slices of ruling territory.

Sure, we see that here in the States, but at least the two major parties try to oppose one another fairly regularly. Far from perfect, but at least it's predictable - if the media propaganda is taken at it's true value (trash).

People, here, complain about having only two major parties & not liking either one much. However, the end result looks to be the same judging by multi-party European governments. Because people are still not happy with those and, as earlier mentioned, they're still generally only seeing the gov't aristocrats on ballots, no?



Democracy in the US certainly has its bright spots:



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