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BREAKING: Anti-Gun Control Parkland Survivor Kyle Kashuv Questioned By School Security For Visiting Gun Range With His Father

On Friday, Parkland survivor Kyle Kashuv went to the gun range to learn to fire a gun for the first time, alongside his father. He tweeted this:

Kyle Kashuv

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It was great learning about our inalienable right of #2A and how to properly use a gun. This was my first time ever touching a gun and it made me appreciate the #Constitution even more. My instructor was very informative; I learnt a lot. #2A is important and we need 2 preserve 2A

10:19 PM - Apr 20, 2018


[more tweets in above linked article]

According to Kyle, “My dad was there and I shot with an AR-15. After, I posted a few pictures and videos.”

Kashuv was quickly called out for visiting a gun range and posting about it by a variety of other students at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. But that wasn’t the end of the story. When Kyle went to school today, his principal informed him that other students had been upset by his posts, but that he hadn’t done anything wrong. But according to Kyle, in the middle of the morning, events took a different turn:

Near the end of third period, my teacher got a call from the office saying I need to go down and see a Mr. Greenleaf. I didn’t know Mr. Greenleaf, but it turned out that he was an armed school resource officer. I went down and found him, and he escorted me to his office. Then a second security officer walked in and sat behind me. Both began questioning me intensely. First, they began berating my tweet, although neither of them had read it; then they began aggressively asking questions about who I went to the range with, whose gun we used, about my father, etc. They were incredibly condescending and rude.

Then a third officer from the Broward County Sheriff’s Office walked in, and began asking me the same questions again. At that point, I asked whether I could record the interview. They said no. I asked if I had done anything wrong. Again, they answered no. I asked why I was there. One said, “Don’t get snappy with me, do you not remember what happened here a few months ago?”

They continued to question me aggressively, though they could cite nothing I had done wrong. They kept calling me “the pro-Second Amendment kid.” I was shocked and honestly, scared. It definitely felt like they were attempting to intimidate me.

I was treated like a criminal for no reason other than having gone to the gun range and posted on social media about it.


Here is a copy of the note provided to The Daily Wire by Kashuv.
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The Daily Wire has reached out to school administration and the Broward County Sheriff’s Office for comment. This story will be updated as more details are known.



Imagine if the school authorities and SROs had been this concerned about Nikolas Cruz... :roll:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:55 am 
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/29790/breaking-anti-gun-control-parkland-survivor-kyle-daily-wire

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BREAKING: Anti-Gun Control Parkland Survivor Kyle Kashuv Questioned By School Security For Visiting Gun Range With His Father

On Friday, Parkland survivor Kyle Kashuv went to the gun range to learn to fire a gun for the first time, alongside his father. He tweeted this:

Kyle Kashuv

@KyleKashuv
It was great learning about our inalienable right of #2A and how to properly use a gun. This was my first time ever touching a gun and it made me appreciate the #Constitution even more. My instructor was very informative; I learnt a lot. #2A is important and we need 2 preserve 2A

10:19 PM - Apr 20, 2018


[more tweets in above linked article]

According to Kyle, “My dad was there and I shot with an AR-15. After, I posted a few pictures and videos.”

Kashuv was quickly called out for visiting a gun range and posting about it by a variety of other students at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. But that wasn’t the end of the story. When Kyle went to school today, his principal informed him that other students had been upset by his posts, but that he hadn’t done anything wrong. But according to Kyle, in the middle of the morning, events took a different turn:

Near the end of third period, my teacher got a call from the office saying I need to go down and see a Mr. Greenleaf. I didn’t know Mr. Greenleaf, but it turned out that he was an armed school resource officer. I went down and found him, and he escorted me to his office. Then a second security officer walked in and sat behind me. Both began questioning me intensely. First, they began berating my tweet, although neither of them had read it; then they began aggressively asking questions about who I went to the range with, whose gun we used, about my father, etc. They were incredibly condescending and rude.

Then a third officer from the Broward County Sheriff’s Office walked in, and began asking me the same questions again. At that point, I asked whether I could record the interview. They said no. I asked if I had done anything wrong. Again, they answered no. I asked why I was there. One said, “Don’t get snappy with me, do you not remember what happened here a few months ago?”

They continued to question me aggressively, though they could cite nothing I had done wrong. They kept calling me “the pro-Second Amendment kid.” I was shocked and honestly, scared. It definitely felt like they were attempting to intimidate me.

I was treated like a criminal for no reason other than having gone to the gun range and posted on social media about it.


Here is a copy of the note provided to The Daily Wire by Kashuv.
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The Daily Wire has reached out to school administration and the Broward County Sheriff’s Office for comment. This story will be updated as more details are known.



Imagine if the school authorities and SROs had been this concerned about Nikolas Cruz... :roll:



It's as if the local government can't get a damn thing right.

People who live there say it's run by leftist turds, so no surprise.

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The results of the union for Broward County Sheriff's Office vote of confidence @ Sheriff Israel are in:

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BREAKING: By a 534-94 margin, deputies vote ‘no confidence’ in Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel - WPLG

4:38 PM - Apr 26, 2018

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... e.mu.nu%2F


Sooooooo close

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The results of the union for Broward County Sheriff's Office vote of confidence @ Sheriff Israel are in:

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BREAKING: By a 534-94 margin, deputies vote ‘no confidence’ in Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel - WPLG

4:38 PM - Apr 26, 2018

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... e.mu.nu%2F


Sooooooo close




Juuuuuuust missed it.

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:lol: :lol:

The 94 who voted for him are school resource officers. :lol:

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I'm more shocked that there are 628 deputies!

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nelmsm wrote:
I'm more shocked that there are 628 deputies!


There are actuallly quite a few more deputies than that.

The Sheriff's Office is composed of 5,400 employees, including approximately 2,800 certified deputies and approximately 600 fire rescue professionals.[2] The BSO budget is approximately $700 million annually.


Obviously, not every deputy decided to vote. And (I am just guessing at this) but perhaps not every deputy is a member of the union.


A Google search indicates that there might actually be multiple unions representing the deputies:

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The Broward County Police Benevolent Association (BCPBA) is a labor union. Founded in 1972, the BCPBA has provided job security to hundreds of Law Enforcement Officers. Our mission is to promote professionalism among law enforcement and to protect the rights and privileges of the individual employee, either as a sworn law enforcement officer (police) or as a civilian employee (support). We provide labor relations assistance and collective bargaining services for contract negotiations and enhance the public’s support by informing the community of law enforcement issues and concerns.

http://bcpba.org/about-the-bcpba/

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The Broward Sheriff’s Office Deputies Association, Local 6020 was formed to provide representation for the Deputies and responds to their needs around the clock, 365 days a year. By affiliating with the I.U.P.A., the Deputies chose to enhance their protect with the Legal Defense Fund which protects them civilly and criminally.

http://6020.iupa.org/

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Swawell's original Op/Ed at:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 570590002/

As information, In February 2016, Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi elevated Swalwell to vice-chair of the Democratic Steering and Policy Committee,[38] which sets the Democratic policy agenda and nominates Democratic Members for committee assignments.

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By David Fleshler
South Florida Sun Sentinel


The Broward school district’s repeated, emphatic — and it turns out, false — statements that Nikolas Cruz had not been in a controversial disciplinary program fit a pattern of an institution on the defensive and under siege.

Facing significant legal and political exposure over the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, the district has tried to keep information from the public and put out untrue and misleading statements, frustrating parents who say this is the time for maximum transparency.


The district is fighting in court against the release of school surveillance video. It flatly refused to issue any records regarding the shooting to the news media, in a possible violation of the state’s open-records law. Superintendent Robert Runcie has blocked critics, including parents, from his Twitter account. More than two months after the shooting, a Broward Sheriff’s detective told a state commission on school safety that he was still waiting for the district to provide all of Cruz’s disciplinary records.

The worst came last week, when Runcie acknowledged that his forceful denials that Cruz had been involved in the Promise program, which is intended to provide an alternative to the arrest of students for minor offenses, were wrong. The district had repeatedly dismissed as “fake news” suggestions that Cruz was in the program.

“It would appear that the district is more interested in protecting their programs than they are the students and teachers in our schools,” said Ryan Petty, whose 14-year-old daughter, Alaina, was killed by Cruz during his rampage through the school. “As a father, I would ask the district to please be completely transparent so we can make sure this doesn’t happen to any other children in any other schools in Florida.”

In an interview, Runcie said the district has held nothing back from authorities, providing records as soon as they could be gathered. Any delays reflect the state of the district's record-keeping systems, he said, not a reluctance to cooperate. He said he would look into the issue of the blanket refusals to provide documents to the news media.

"Look, we want to be as transparent and as clear as possible," he said. "It's the only way we're going to move forward as a community, it's the only way that we're going to get better as a school district, as a society, to make sure that we can put things in place so that these types of tragedies don't happen again."

Andrew Pollack, whose daughter Meadow was killed in the shooting, said he was surprised to learn that the district still has not provided all of Cruz’s records to investigators. At a meeting of the state commission set up after the shooting to improve school safety, Pollack asked a Broward Sheriff’s detective whether all of the records had been provided.

“I believe that some of the items we are seeking to get from the school board, we have received some,” Detective Zachary Scott said. “But I do not believe we’ve received everything yet.”

“It caught us all off guard,” Pollack said in an interview this week. “We didn’t believe it. It’s past two months now already. A lot of the people on the committee couldn’t believe it.”

From the school district, Pollack said, “There’s no honesty at all.”

Sheriff’s spokeswoman Veda Coleman-Wright declined to say whether the school district has supplied the records and whether it is cooperating with the investigation, saying only, “Our detectives continue to work with several agencies as they progress with the investigation.”

School district spokeswoman Tracy Clark said the district has provided accurate information to investigators, the press and the public as fast as possible and “any suggestion that the district is not being forthcoming is either based on a misunderstanding or misinformation.”

“The district continues to focus on responding in a timely and accurate manner to the unprecedented number of public records requests, media requests and subpoenas related to the tragedy at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School,” she said in an email. “In addition, we have coordinated numerous interviews with employees as part of the various ongoing investigations. Both the State Attorney’s Office, through the Broward Sheriff’s Office, and the Public Defender’s Office have been given complete copies of the records related to Nikolas Cruz that have been gathered to date.”

Although the Broward Sheriff’s Office has not produced every record requested by the news media, the agency has released dozens of documents, including reports of incidents at Cruz’s home and documents on its own flawed response.

But the school district has issued a blanket refusal to release any documents, including emails about the shooting among the district’s leadership and formal notices of intent to sue by victims and their families, despite Florida’s broad public records law.

“At this time, any records pertaining to Stoneman Douglas High will not be released pursuant to 768.28(16)(b) and 119.071(2)(c),” states a letter sent repeatedly to the South Florida Sun Sentinel, emphasizing the word “any.”

The exemptions to the state open records law cited by the district concern claims or lawsuits involving the district and active criminal investigations.

Barbara Petersen, a lawyer who is president of the First Amendment Foundation, which advocates the robust application of Florida’s open-records laws, said the district was misapplying both exemptions. The claims exemption must be construed narrowly to exclude only documents directly relevant to the claims. And the criminal investigation exemption applies only to law enforcement agencies and the documents they produce in the course of an investigation.

“It does not apply to a school board,” she said. “What a lot of agencies will do is — say you’ll make the request for his disciplinary records — and the school board will say, we gave that to FDLE, it’s exempt under the active criminal investigation exemption. No, it’s not. The active criminal investigation exemption first applies only to law enforcement and second applies only to records created in the scope of that investigation. It does not apply to any record that (otherwise) would be subject to disclosure.”


More broadly, she said the Stoneman Douglas tragedy is a perfect example of a time when government agencies need to be as open as possible.

“It’s triggered a fundamental debate, not just about gun safety and gun control, but the schools and how the schools are dealing with these troubled children,” she said. “And this school board has been difficult to deal with, to say the least, they’ve distorted the facts, if not outright lied, and their credibility is at stake.”

The school district, joined by the Broward Sheriff’s Office, tried to stop the release to the media of surveillance video from the school. The district’s lawyers argued in court that the videos would threaten school security by revealing blind spots in the surveillance system.

The district partially dropped its opposition after all sides agreed to an initial release of videos that showed the inaction of a Broward sheriff’s deputy who resigned after the incident. And the district lost in court when Broward Circuit Judge Jeffrey R. Levenson ordered the release of more videos, saying any “potential harm” to the school’s security system was “outweighed by the strong public interest in disclosure.” The school district, along with the state attorney’s office, is appealing.

Runcie’s Twitter account contains fewer critics of the district, now that he’s blocked several of them.

“He blocked me,” tweeted Diana Alvarez, whose son is a 10th-grader in the Broward system and who had served as an elementary school PTA president. “NOT good to block a parent in your district.”

Among others shut out of Runcie’s account was Tim Sternberg, a former district administrator who had run the Promise program before resigning a year ago. Now a critic of how the district runs the program, he was blocked last month.

“What is your superintendent afraid of?” he tweeted to school board members, forwarding the statement “@RobertwRuncie blocked you.” “Is he nervous about the truth?”

Runcie said he won’t tolerate “profanity, hate speech or false information” on his Twitter account.




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“Negative commentary from constituents is part of a public official’s job,” he said in a statement emailed to the Sun Sentinel. “However, the heightened political climate our community is currently experiencing has inspired some individuals to cross a threshold in terms of vitriol.”

Questions about the Promise program had been a source of frustration for district officials, as well as students and parents. Many felt that the program had been unfairly seized upon as a distraction by conservative opponents of gun control, who preferred to focus on blundering by the district and the sheriff’s office.

At a Feb. 28 news conference, Runcie insisted Cruz had no connection to the program. “This particular individual was never a participant in the Promise program. He wasn’t eligible for it,” Runcie said. “There’s no connection between Cruz and the district’s Promise program.” In a March 24 column in the Sun Sentinel, Runcie called the reports of a Promise connection to Cruz “fake news,” lumping them with the false charges that Stoneman Douglas survivors were “crisis actors.”

Later the standard answer developed a nuance, with Runcie claiming Cruz had not been in the program “while in high school.”

“Once he said that comment, I knew the guy was lying and being deceitful,” Pollack said. “Once he shaded it that way, I knew it.”


In an interview, Runcie said he was simply trying to convey the best information he had as soon as he got it.

"I gave people what I had at the time relative to Nikolas Cruz's involvement in the program," he said. "I could not tell the media and the public, when they asked those questions, 'You know what? Wait till June when we get our complete investigation done,' because there's a level of impatience out there."

Asked why did didn't make clear at the time that not all the information had been gathered on the Promise question, he said, "I'll take the blame for that. That's my responsibility. I was conveying what information I had received from staff internally, and that's where we were at that moment in time. There was no intent to mislead the public, but it was a mistake on my part to not qualify it further."

Runcie said more information may come out on the extent of Cruz’s involvement in Promise.

“We are still reviewing records that we have, to make sure, and we may end up changing it again,” he said.

On another occasion, in a Feb. 26 interview with the Sun Sentinel, Runcie said Cruz had started part-time at Stoneman Douglas in January, 2016, and went to full-time status that August. In fact, as the district later confirmed, Cruz started part-time in August of 2015 and went full time in January of 2016.

Runcie's misstatement, which he blamed on incorrect information that had been provided to him, significantly understated the length of Cruz's attendance at Stoneman Douglas. The error minimized the amount of time his fellow students had been subject to the risk of attending school with a teen known by the district to be severely troubled and obsessed with violence.


Eventually expelled over a variety of disciplinary incidents, including an assault, Cruz would return to the school a year later with his rifle, where he shot 34 people, killing 17.

County Commissioner Michael Udine, a former mayor of Parkland, said the hedged responses from the district are a disservice to the community.

“People want the whole truth, they want the whole truth quickly and they want the complete truth out in the open,” he said. “Everything’s coming out at some point. The half-answers that have come out — whether he was in the Promise program at one time or not completely in the program — is not the right way to handle it. Full and complete transparency is what’s called for here.”


Seems the school district is still playing "cover its ass" and not only hindering the release of information but also law enforcement's investigation of the matter.

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