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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:37 am 
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Yes, black dictator in charge, 50% decline in GDP and cucumbers imported from Algeria for $10 a pound.

Meanwhile, Zimbabwe licenses Trump's border wall design to keep out starving South Africans.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:39 am 
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When all the white South Africans are killed or driven out it will devolve into tribal/ethnic politics like half a dozen other African countries.

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A link to an interesting document:

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SOUTH AFRICA RURAL KILLINGS FROM 1994-2012-02-01
The list are updated and as complete as possible, but many more murders are missing from the list due to the information clamp down by the SA Police


http://historyreviewed.com/wp-content/u ... Africa.pdf


The document is 645 pages long :shock:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:01 pm 
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c4e7 ... a753c47952

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White farmers flee South Africa in fear of land grab

Aislinn Laing, Johannesburg
March 23 2018, 12:01am,
The Times

White farmers in South Africa are planning to emigrate after the government announced plans to take their land without compensation.

This month, MPs from the ruling African National Congress backed a motion calling for white-owned land to be seized, prompting farming unions to warn of a repeat of the land grabs in Zimbabwe, after which agricultural production collapsed.

President Ramaphosa has insisted he will not make the same mistakes as Zimbabwe but farmers are deeply uncertain of their future, prompting the younger generation to either emigrate or leave family farms for jobs in cities.

One specialist at a Johannesburg company arranging emigration to Australia said there had been a surge in inquiries. “We’ve had a huge number of calls,” he said. “No one quite understands what is happening with land reform but it’s the uncertainty that makes them finally decide to go.”

Emigration by white South Africans has been increasing for several years because of racially-charged government rhetoric and erratic governance that has wiped millions off pensions and savings. Official statistics show that the white population declined from 4.52 million in 2016 to 4.49 million in 2017. Most of those emigrating were aged between 25 and 29 and their most popular destinations were Australia, the UK and the US. At least 112,000 are expected to emigrate in the next five years.

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Someone else's take on South Africa (well, it's actually more about Zimbabwe):




Spoiler Alert:
Be sure to watch long enough to hear about the Batmobile!

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Will South Africa follow the path of Zimbabwe? I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it did. In fact, I'd say it has already traversed down that path quite a bit already. Perhaps not past the "point of no return" but possibly even that far.

Meanwhile, Botswana is less corrupt, and shows greater growth and promise even than most of Europe. Why? I spent about 8 years puzzling over that question (among others) and the best I could come up with was "its complicated." A fortuitous synchronization of cultural, ecological and historical factors fell into place for Bechuanaland. Few former Commonwealth protectorates--or European colonies or protectorates in general--enjoyed such 'luck.'

One thing that does stand out as possibly the 'straw that made the difference:' there is a long-standing tradition of 'participatory democracy' in Tswana chiefdoms, not unlike that of the ancient Athenians. Yes, women and immigrants from non-Tswana clans, or even members of 'outsider' clans within a particular chieftaincy were second class citizens. But the adult men who were 'legit' members of a clan were not; they had not only a right, but a ritual obligation to participate in all Kgotla activities (basically committee meetings for the community). The Chief could impose his will without popular support to some extent, but in the long run that was about as successful as it is in a fully-institutionalized Western democracy. Estranging the constituency would eventually lead to his right to serve as Chief being questioned, and fictive kinship manipulation through rhetoric and negotiation were as common among the Tswana as anywhere.

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Will South Africa follow the path of Zimbabwe? I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it did. In fact, I'd say it has already traversed down that path quite a bit already. Perhaps not past the "point of no return" but possibly even that far.

Meanwhile, Botswana is less corrupt, and shows greater growth and promise even than most of Europe. Why? I spent about 8 years puzzling over that question (among others) and the best I could come up with was "its complicated." A fortuitous synchronization of cultural, ecological and historical factors fell into place for Bechuanaland. Few former Commonwealth protectorates--or European colonies or protectorates in general--enjoyed such 'luck.'

One thing that does stand out as possibly the 'straw that made the difference:' there is a long-standing tradition of 'participatory democracy' in Tswana chiefdoms, not unlike that of the ancient Athenians. Yes, women and immigrants from non-Tswana clans, or even members of 'outsider' clans within a particular chieftaincy were second class citizens. But the adult men who were 'legit' members of a clan were not; they had not only a right, but a ritual obligation to participate in all Kgotla activities (basically committee meetings for the community). The Chief could impose his will without popular support to some extent, but in the long run that was about as successful as it is in a fully-institutionalized Western democracy. Estranging the constituency would eventually lead to his right to serve as Chief being questioned, and fictive kinship manipulation through rhetoric and negotiation were as common among the Tswana as anywhere.
Give liberalism time, it will destroy any liberal society ... like rust it never sleeps.

And yes I am blaming Liberalism, it's like Regan's quote: i'm from the government and i'm here to help.

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abradley wrote:
Anthropoid wrote:
Will South Africa follow the path of Zimbabwe? I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it did. In fact, I'd say it has already traversed down that path quite a bit already. Perhaps not past the "point of no return" but possibly even that far.

Meanwhile, Botswana is less corrupt, and shows greater growth and promise even than most of Europe. Why? I spent about 8 years puzzling over that question (among others) and the best I could come up with was "its complicated." A fortuitous synchronization of cultural, ecological and historical factors fell into place for Bechuanaland. Few former Commonwealth protectorates--or European colonies or protectorates in general--enjoyed such 'luck.'

One thing that does stand out as possibly the 'straw that made the difference:' there is a long-standing tradition of 'participatory democracy' in Tswana chiefdoms, not unlike that of the ancient Athenians. Yes, women and immigrants from non-Tswana clans, or even members of 'outsider' clans within a particular chieftaincy were second class citizens. But the adult men who were 'legit' members of a clan were not; they had not only a right, but a ritual obligation to participate in all Kgotla activities (basically committee meetings for the community). The Chief could impose his will without popular support to some extent, but in the long run that was about as successful as it is in a fully-institutionalized Western democracy. Estranging the constituency would eventually lead to his right to serve as Chief being questioned, and fictive kinship manipulation through rhetoric and negotiation were as common among the Tswana as anywhere.
Give liberalism time, it will destroy any liberal society ... like rust it never sleeps.

And yes I am blaming Liberalism, it's like Regan's quote: i'm from the government and i'm here to help.


Wut?

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Anthropoid wrote:
Wut?
"And yes I am blaming Liberalism, it's like Regan's quote: i'm from the government and i'm here to help."

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abradley wrote:
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Wut?
"And yes I am blaming Liberalism, it's like Regan's quote: i'm from the government and i'm here to help."


Oh com'n Abrad, I know you know history better than that. The founding fathers were _ALL LIBERALS_. Most "Republicans" and probably quite a few "Democrats" are LIBERALS.

Liberalism was the idea that there was nothing special about Kings or Lords, an idea that we Yanks pretty much all agree on and even our Euro cousins pay some lip service to.

The crap that calls itself "liberalism" since about 1950 (at earliest but certainly no later than 1973) is hardly worthy of appropriating the term for itself and damning by implication any who disagree with them as being loyalists to the Ancien Regime . . .

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