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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:15 pm 
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Botswana. If they can do it, then ANY African regime led by Africans should be able to; but they do not.

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An article from a few years ago where the Zulu King claimed that blacks destroy South Africa...

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The official king of South Africa’s Zulu tribe has announced that that country was economically, militarily, and socially better under white Afrikaner rule—and that history will judge blacks as only having destroyed everything that they had inherited from the white government.

King Goodwill Zwelithini, who has been Zulu king since December 1971, made the remarks during a speech at an official royal household event in Nongoma, located in the northeastern part of the eastern seaboard province of KwaZulu-Natal, over the past weekend.

The event, held to mark his forty-fourth year on the Zulu throne, was reported on by the Natal Mercury newspaper.

King Zwelithini said the former white rulers of South Africa had “built a powerful government with the strongest economy and army on the continent.”

He went on to say that the white government had “a mighty army, and that the South African currency and economy had shot up” under the National Party government.

“But then,” he continued, “came this so-called democracy in which black people are destroying the gains of the past. The economy that we are now burning down.”

Addressing himself directly to black people, King Zwelethini said that “you do not want to build on what you had inherited. You are going to find yourselves on the wrong side of history.”

“History will judge black people harshly as they have failed to build on the successes of the Afrikaners,” he said, before continuing to explain that “black people loved to use matches to burn down infrastructure” built by the white government.

King Zwelithini said that “people on the ground did not appreciate the infrastructure” which they had inherited from the white rulers, even though the ANC leaders themselves governed from the very buildings which the whites had created.

Referring specifically to the Union Buildings in Pretoria and the South African Parliament in Cape Town, King Zwelithini said that he was “surprised that all presidents who have been elected in this so-called democracy, occupy apartheid buildings.”

“But you on the ground, are burning everything that you found here. . . you don’t want to use them (buildings), you say this is apartheid infrastructure,” he said.

Finally, he informed his audience that he “feels lucky that I was born the same year the National Party came to power, in 1948. The Afrikaners respected me. I don’t know how it happened that the Afrikaners respect me so much.”

He also mentioned that at one of his palaces in Nongoma, he still had all the medals which the white government had awarded to his “kingdom,” marking out historical events and achievements of the Zulu people.

King Zwelithini’s comments come after a falling out with the ANC government—which he previously supported—over the reorganization and funding of his royal household.

http://newobserveronline.com/zulu-king- ... th-africa/

I guess we are going to find out if he was right or not.

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 Post subject: Re: South Africa
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Prepping for Afrikaaners:



This sort of dovetails into some of the discussions that we are having in some of the other threads:
People being able to defend themselves from an oppressive government.

Will a race based civil war ever break out in South Africa?
Who knows...I hope not.
But some are preparing for the possibility of such an event.

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This was from last November but is still somewhat relevant to the topic of white farmers in certain African countries:


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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... an-farmers

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Australia considers fast-track visas for white South African farmers

Home affairs minister Peter Dutton says the group deserves ‘special attention’ due to the ‘horrific circumstances’ they face at home
South Africa criticises Australian plan to fast-track white farmer visas

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White South African farmers “deserve special attention” from Australia due to the “horrific circumstances” of land seizures and violence, Peter Dutton has said.

The home affairs minister told the Daily Telegraph on Wednesday his department was examining a range of methods to fast-track their path to Australia on humanitarian or other visa programs.

South Africa’s new president, Cyril Ramaphosa, is pursuing legal changes to allow appropriation of farm lands without compensation for redistribution to black South Africans.

The policy has led to reports, including in the Australian media, that white farmers are being murdered at a rate of more than one per week.

“If you look at the footage and read the stories, you hear the accounts, it’s a horrific circumstance they face,” Dutton said.

The home affairs minister noted Australia has refugee, humanitarian and other visa programs which have the “potential to help some of these people”. He said he had asked his department to look at the options “because from what I have seen they do do need help from a civilised country like ours”.

“The people we’re talking about want to work hard, they want to contribute to a country like Australia,” Dutton said.

“We want people who want to come here, abide by our laws, integrate into our society, work hard, not lead a life on welfare. And I think these people deserve special attention and we’re certainly applying that special attention now.”

Dutton suggested options included the in-country persecution visa category, and to bring them to Australia on humanitarian visas via referrals from others in Australia.

He said the home affairs department was looking at ways to help “some of these horrific cases” and suggested an announcement could be made shortly.

Asked if this could be achieved with the South African government’s cooperation, Dutton replied Australia “can work with governments all around the world”.



I would give credit for Australia stepping up to support this.

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Racists! Who is going to feed everybody if all the racists leave?

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Racists! Who is going to feed everybody if all the racists leave?


South Africa can build on the successful model in Zimbabwe......er....wait.....never mind.

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http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/ ... aa30e2a956

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South African politician says Australia is a ‘racist country’, farmers should ‘leave the keys’ when they go

SOUTH Africa’s radical opposition leader says white farmers should leave for “racist” Australia, but insists “we are not killing them”.

Frank Chung@franks_chung news.com.auMARCH 22, 20182:44PM

IF WHITE farmers want to flee for a “racist country” like Australia they should leave the keys to their houses and tractors behind, the head of South Africa’s radical Marxist opposition party says.

But Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) leader Julius Malema, who recently declared his party was “cutting the throat of whiteness”, denied white farmers were being killed. “We don’t know violence, we know negotiations,” Malema told a packed Human Rights Day rally in Mpumalanga Stadium on Wednesday.

“And we are very robust in our engagement sometimes. A racist country like Australia says: ‘The white farmers are being killed in South Africa.’ We are not killing them. Now Australia says: ‘Malema, EFF want to kill white farmers, they must come to Australia.’

“If they want to go, they must go. They must leave the keys to their tractors because we want to work the land, they must leave the keys to their houses because we want to stay in those houses. They must leave everything they did not come here with in South Africa and go to Australia.”

His comments came as Australian Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton stared down criticism from “crazy lefties” as he pushed on with plans to bring white South African farmers to Australia.

“They don’t realise how completely dead they are to me,” Mr Dutton told Sydney radio station 2GB on Thursday.


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‘ONLY RACISTS WENT TO AUSTRALIA’

Malema, who was convicted of hate speech in 2011 for singing the apartheid-era revolutionary song Shoot the Boer, Kill the Farmer and in 2016 told supporters he was “not calling for the slaughter of white people‚ at least for now”, said farmers should “leave quietly”.

“We’re too busy,” he said. “Don’t make noise, because you will irritate us. Go to Australia. It is only racists who went to Australia when Mandela got out of prison. It is only racists who went to Australia when 1994 came. It is the racists again who are going back to Australia.”

But he said they would be “poor in Australia”. “They are rich here because they are exploiting black people. There is no black person to be exploited in Australia, they are going to be poor.

“They will come back here with their tail between their legs. We will hire them because we will be the owners of their farms when they come back to South Africa. As to what we are going to do with the land, it’s our business, it’s none of your business.

“We want Africa back. Africa belongs to our people.

“We are saying that which our people were killed for ... has not been achieved, and therefore we will continue with that struggle. When we say so, they say we are racist, they say we want to kill white people. Why would we kill white people?

“Our mothers and fathers are not murderers. The white settlers found them here, they killed them, they forcefully removed them, yet our people kept on saying: ‘Let’s talk.’

“Today we say: ‘Let’s talk like our parents kept on saying to you. Let’s talk about how we are going to expropriate land without compensation.’ Then when we say so, they say we want to kill them.”

Last month, South Africa’s parliament voted in favour of a motion, brought by the EFF and supported by the ruling African National Congress, to begin the process of expropriating white-owned land without compensation.

A 2017 government audit found white people owned 72 per cent of farmland in South Africa. According to the 2011 census, there are about 4.6 million white people in South Africa, accounting for 8.9 per cent of the population.

The racially charged issue of land rights and farm murders has been the subject of fierce debate in the country and internationally.

According to civil rights group Afriforum, which represents around 200,000 white farmers largely from the Afrikaner minority, 82 people were killed in a record 423 attacks on farms last year. In 2018 so far, there have already been 109 attacks and more than 15 murders.

Afriforum says it is forced to compile its own numbers because the South African government — which denies the attacks are racially motivated or that white farmers are killed in disproportionate numbers — stopped releasing farm murder statistics in 2008.

“Our rural areas are trapped in a crime war,” Afriforum head of safety Ian Cameron said in a statement, adding that torture with irons, blowtorches, melted plastic and boiling water often continued for hours during the attacks.

“Although the South African government denies that a violence crisis is staring rural areas in the face, the numbers prove that excessive violence plague these areas. Government cannot deny the facts — our people are being mowed down.”

‘PEOPLE ARE BEING SAVAGELY ATTACKED’

Mr Dutton outraged South Africa’s government earlier this month when he floated the idea of fast-tracked humanitarian visas for white South African farmers, saying they faced “horrific circumstances” and needed help from a “civilised country”.

“The South African government is offended by the statements which have been attributed to the Australian Home Affairs Minister and a full retraction is expected,” South Africa’s foreign ministry said in a statement at the time.

“That threat does not exist. There is no reason for any government in the world to suspect that a section of South Africans is under danger from their own democratically elected government.”

On Thursday, Mr Dutton said he was unperturbed by “mean cartoons” and negative media coverage. “We just get on with making decisions that we need to,” he told 2GB.

He insisted he was blind to skin colour and would continue to bring in migrants based on the national interest. “It concerns me that people are being persecuted at the moment — that’s the reality — the numbers of people dying or being savagely attacked in South Africa is a reality,” he said.

“We’re looking at ways we can help people to migrate to Australia if they’re finding themselves in that situation.”

Mr Dutton said he had been inundated with messages of support and references to particular cases of white South African farmers in need of help. “We’ll start to work through those and if people meet the criteria under the program then they’ll settle under the program here,” he said.

“If people think I’m going to cower or take a backward step because of their nonsense, fabricated, fake news criticism, then they’ve got another thing coming.”

Mr Dutton’s offer was earlier branded as “out-and-out-racist” by Greens leader Richard Di Natale and was slapped down by Foreign Minister Julie Bishop, but supported by former Prime Minister Tony Abbott and Liberal Democrats Senator David Leyonhjelm.

On Thursday, Nationals MP Andrew Broad called on his Coalition colleagues to reconsider the offer, warning South Africa could face food shortages if white farmers left. “The black South African farmers certainly have not proven themselves,” Mr Broad told ABC radio.

“They need the skill-set of the white South African farmers if they’re going to have any chance of feeding the population. If we take away the farmers from South Africa, we rob them of the capacity to farm that ground and ultimately feed the population.”

An estimated 500,000 white South Africans have left the country over the past three decades, with more than 200,000 settling in Australia.

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Why, the guy is a regular black Abe Lincoln. That's one Hell of "negotiation" strategy, dumbass. You want an orderly "hand-over"..just pay fair market value.

He's just a Marxist c*** who substitutes "white farmer" for "bourgeois". The naked racism just makes it easier to identify the victims. If he gets his way it will end in Animal Farm Part Deux and "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".

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Malema, who was convicted of hate speech in 2011 for singing the apartheid-era revolutionary song Shoot the Boer, Kill the Farmer and in 2016 told supporters he was “not calling for the slaughter of white people‚ at least for now”, said farmers should “leave quietly”.


Why, the guy is a regular black Abe Lincoln. That's one Hell of "negotiation" strategy, dumbass. You want an orderly "hand-over"..just pay fair market value.

He's just a Marxist c*** who substitutes "white farmer" for "bourgeois". The naked racism just makes it easier to identify the victims. If he gets his way it will end in Animal Farm Part Deux and "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".



If he gets his way South Africa will become the next Zimbabwe.

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