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 Post subject: The noose is tightening; Mueller Subpoenas Trump Org.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:01 pm 
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Does this mean that the red line has been crossed? :roll:

MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT and MAGGIE HABERMAN wrote:

Mueller Subpoenas Trump Organization, Demanding Documents About Russia

WASHINGTON — The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has subpoenaed the Trump Organization to turn over documents, including some related to Russia, according to two people briefed on the matter. The order is the first known instance of the special counsel demanding records directly related to President Trump’s businesses, bringing the investigation closer to the president.

The breadth of the subpoena was not clear, nor was it clear why Mr. Mueller issued it instead of simply asking for the documents from the company, an umbrella organization that oversees Mr. Trump’s business ventures. In the subpoena, delivered in recent weeks, Mr. Mueller ordered the Trump Organization to hand over all records related to Russia and other topics he is investigating, the people said.

The subpoena is the latest indication that the investigation, which Mr. Trump’s lawyers once regularly assured him would be completed by now, will drag on for at least several more months. Word of the subpoena comes as Mr. Mueller appears to be broadening his investigation to examine the role foreign money may have played in funding Mr. Trump’s political activities. In recent weeks, Mr. Mueller’s investigators have questioned witnesses, including an adviser to the United Arab Emirates, about the flow of Emirati money into the United States.

The Trump Organization has typically complied with requests from congressional investigators for documents for their own inquiries into Russian election interference, and there was no indication the company planned to fight Mr. Mueller’s order.

“Since July 2017, we have advised the public that the Trump Organization is fully cooperative with all investigations, including the special counsel, and is responding to their requests,” said Alan S. Futerfas, a lawyer representing the Trump Organization. “This is old news and our assistance and cooperation with the various investigations remains the same today.”

The White House press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, reiterated during her daily briefing that the president was cooperating with the inquiry and referred questions to the Trump Organization.

The Trump Organization has said that it never had real estate holdings in Russia, but witnesses recently interviewed by Mr. Mueller have been asked about a possible real estate deal in Moscow. In 2015, a longtime business associate of Mr. Trump’s emailed Mr. Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, at his Trump Organization account claiming he had ties to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia and said that building a Trump Tower in Moscow would help Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign.

Mr. Trump signed a nonbinding “letter of intent” for the project in 2015 and discussed it three times with Mr. Cohen.

Mr. Mueller could run afoul of a line the president has warned him not to cross. Though it is not clear how much of the subpoena is related to Mr. Trump’s business beyond ties to Russia, Mr. Trump said in an interview with The New York Times in July that the special counsel would be crossing a “red line” if he looked into his family’s finances beyond any relationship with Russia. The president declined to say how he would respond if he concluded that the special counsel had crossed that line.

A month before Mr. Trump spoke of his red line, the White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II, threatened to quit after Mr. Trump asked him to have Mr. Mueller fired because the president believed he had conflict-of-interest issues that precluded him from running the special counsel investigation.

Mr. Mueller was appointed in May to investigate whether Mr. Trump’s campaign colluded with the Russians to influence the 2016 presidential election and any other matters that may arise from the inquiry. He is also examining whether the president has tried to obstruct the investigation.

Mr. Trump’s lawyers are in negotiations with Mr. Mueller’s office about whether and how to allow his investigators to interview the president. Mr. Mueller’s office has shared topics it wants to discuss with the president, according to two people familiar with the talks. The lawyers have advised Mr. Trump to refuse an interview but the president wants to do it, as he believes he has done nothing wrong and can easily answer investigators’ questions.

At the same time, Mr. Trump is considering whether to bring on a new lawyer to help represent him in the special counsel’s investigation. Last week, Mr. Trump spoke with Emmet Flood, a longtime Washington lawyer who represented former President Bill Clinton during the impeachment process, about coming into the White House to deal with the inquiry.


Follow the money seems to be the operative guideline here. Good.

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Follow the money seems to be the operative guideline here


Follow what monies to where and why at what cause? I'd say just go ahead and search/seize every document of everyone he's ever known trying to find a crime and then just making something up if none is found. Why not? 4th amendment shmendment pff. Right, nero?

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Must be getting extremely desperate now that he has to resort to a big fishing trip on a completely separate lake, and no nibbles in sight.

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Too bad his previous fixer, Strzok, was discovered to be a crooked interviewer and got taken off the case. This is the kind of technicality fishing expedition he's had experience doing. Doubt Mueller has as much experience being a crooked investigator.

I didn't care before, but this silliness has gone so far off task maybe it is time to fire these wastes of time & space.

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There is no "Trump Tower" in Moscow, is there?????

So this is..what's the word..an "imaginary" quid pro quo...or a "hypothetical" quid pro..or maybe "intention to commit" quid pro quo?

Notice the writing in the NYT article. They can barely contain their glee. Notice also that this is supposed to be a confidential inquiry until the special counsel recommends charges or announces his findings. So, could somebody explain to me how this is in the NYT? I think we all know what is going on here. Somebody on the Mueller team is intentionally leaking information to harm Trump and his Presidency. It's the same bullshit that the FBI and DNC pulled during the campaign and after Trump won. If they really had evidence of criminality on this either THAT would be leaked or they would discipline themselves for the big bombshell.

There is a small chance the Trump team is behind it, they know it is a dead end, and they are setting up Trump critics to look like assholes and undermine Mueller. That would be the 3-D chess theory.

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Has anyone see Carter Page on TV? The guy is like an 8 year old who just got a new Schwinn with racing stripes and white side wall tires for Christmas. He doesn't look the least bit worried. Clearly, Mueller has informed him he is not a target and he knows he is going to sue the crap out of someone and win...AND already has a book deal.

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It is interesting to see what will be Trump's reaction to the subpoena. No tweets yet, no attempts to fire Mueller, yet.

But Trump's legal team has consulted with Emmet T. Flood: Trump met with Clinton's impeachment lawyer to assist in Russia probe. :lol:

Or perhaps it is all about Story Daniels and Trump needs advise how to say: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" honestly. :lol:

What is next? :roll:

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I'd rather have a president that can think quickly on his feet than one that can't seem to stay on hers.....

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chijohnaok wrote:
I'd rather have a president that can think quickly on his feet than one that can't seem to stay on hers.....


Indeed.

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PS. I can feel your pain, having to choose between plague or cholera. But then you had 15 other candidates to choose from. You should take the primaries more seriously next time. And require all candidates to publish their tax returns; to avoid embarrassing kompromat.

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At least Macron knows how to dress.

Merkel looks like the oldest tour guide at NBC Studios.

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