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 Post subject: Re: Court Rules 'Bookkeeper of Auschwitz', 96, Must Go To Ja
PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:28 am 
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True, but I agree with the ruling. Prison is the easiest thing he should get.


Agreed.

We don't need an "enthusiastic" Nazi to prove anything except perhaps to explain to folks that the whole country knew what was going on and didn't have any problem with it.

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 Post subject: Re: Court Rules 'Bookkeeper of Auschwitz', 96, Must Go To Ja
PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:59 am 
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We don't need an "enthusiastic" Nazi to prove anything except perhaps to explain to folks that the whole country knew what was going on and didn't have any problem with it.

That's exactly what got him in trouble in the first place. He never killed anyone. The guy is almost 100 years old, he's probably in enough pain already. Leave him alone.

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 Post subject: Re: Court Rules 'Bookkeeper of Auschwitz', 96, Must Go To Ja
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He never killed anyone.


A lot of Germans didn't kill anybody but the general populace fanatic love of Nazism facilitated 8 million Jewish deaths.

It's a small price to ask that those who were actively part of genocide spend time in jail.

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 Post subject: Re: Court Rules 'Bookkeeper of Auschwitz', 96, Must Go To Ja
PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:23 am 
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Might as well lock up they guys who cooked breakfast for the drivers of the transport trains then.

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 Post subject: Re: Court Rules 'Bookkeeper of Auschwitz', 96, Must Go To Ja
PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:37 am 
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As you may well know, Auschwitz is just a hoax.



;)

"This video is not available in your country."

Seems like the thought police won't let me watch that.

No harm done, you already know your Irving well enough. ;)

But odd this kind of censorship is. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Court Rules 'Bookkeeper of Auschwitz', 96, Must Go To Ja
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Tough call. Not sure how I feel about it. I despise nazis. Killing all of them would have been great. But would every German over the age of 21 in 1945 have to be killed? An entire nation was complicit in murder. "We didn't know" is baloney.

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 Post subject: Re: Court Rules 'Bookkeeper of Auschwitz', 96, Must Go To Ja
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Tough call. Not sure how I feel about it. I despise nazis. Killing all of them would have been great. But would every German over the age of 21 in 1945 have to be killed? An entire nation was complicit in murder. "We didn't know" is baloney.

All Germans were not nazis, and all Germans did not know what was happening.

Just getting the facts right. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Court Rules 'Bookkeeper of Auschwitz', 96, Must Go To Ja
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Mac wrote:
Might as well lock up they guys who cooked breakfast for the drivers of the transport trains then.


Correct.

State sponsored genocide, especially at this level, could not have been achieved without their actions.

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All Germans were not nazis, and all Germans did not know what was happening.


Of course they knew.

The average German felt Hitler was a God and they would do anything for him. They laid down their lives in droves and fought to the bitter end.

A little story...

When I was a teen living in military housing, my next door neighbor's wife was a German who had meet during the occupation. We had a chat one day and she basically poured out her soul. Her brother was in the SS and she worked as a nurse in the Hitler Youth. She told me how she suffered during the war and how her brother got into trouble for giving her the leather on his pants so she could have shoes. And how they grabbed the silk of an Allied parachute because they had none. She meet Hitler several times and had 4 autographed copies of Mein Kempf. She adamantly denied being a Nazis but here eyes glazed over in adoration every time she said his name. When the Allies came she immediately burned her copies of Mein Kempf and once again I saw this... I don't want to be associated but damn what a god was Hitler look.

Believe what you want. But the Germans all knew and they didn't give a shit.

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 Post subject: Re: Court Rules 'Bookkeeper of Auschwitz', 96, Must Go To Ja
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When I was a teen living in military housing, my next door neighbor's wife was a German who had meet during the occupation. We had a chat one day and she basically poured out her soul. Her brother was in the SS and she worked as a nurse in the Hitler Youth. She told me how she suffered during the war and how her brother got into trouble for giving her the leather on his pants so she could have shoes. And how they grabbed the silk of an Allied parachute because they had none. She meet Hitler several times and had 4 autographed copies of Mein Kempf. She adamantly denied being a Nazis but here eyes glazed over in adoration every time she said his name. When the Allies came she immediately burned her copies of Mein Kempf and once again I saw this... I don't want to be associated but damn what a god was Hitler look.

Is this her?

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 Post subject: Re: Court Rules 'Bookkeeper of Auschwitz', 96, Must Go To Ja
PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:11 am 
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Of course they knew.

The average German felt Hitler was a God and they would do anything for him. They laid down their lives in droves and fought to the bitter end.
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You are wrong.

I is like saying that all Americans support Donald Trump.

There was a large opposition. Hitler took power by a minority.

Sounds familiar.

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