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 Post subject: Re: Finland about to celebrate 100 years of independence..
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:29 am 
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The 612 (for the 6th December, Independence Day) march that was booked and announced into it's location in Helsinki a year advance was widely reported in media as "bothering" a children's Alpaca event that was booked to same location.

During Independence Day it was widely broadcasted in news that "the poor children and their Alpacas had to be moved to a different location because of the 612 march!"

Now secret messages have been leaked to press that point to the organizers of the Alpaca event having deliberately booked it into the same location as the 612 which had been announced a year before. Their goal was to "use any means available to draw attention from and disturb the 612 march".

The lead organizer lied on national television about his motives, that the Alpaca event wasn't a counter demonstration to oppose the 612 and patriots. Many of the organizers of the Alpaca event turned out to be members of radical left.

Was the 612 a Nazi march?

https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9967028

No, it wasn't. YLE actually covered it and there were a large number of non-Nazis there, in fact Nazis were a minority.

YLE notes that the gathering force of the 612 march is anti-immigration, opposition to leftism and desire for independence.

It was noted by many who took part in the march that they did not wish to exclude any conservative or right wing group from taking part, essentially suggesting that the right is so weak at the moment and facing such huge challenges that 'all help is welcome'.

YLE especially noted that most of the people taking part in the 612 march did not approve of national socialism or of it's goals and values.


Then again certain resident from this forum wanted to see them bleed. That was duly noted.

If there were two historic things about Independence Day, there were no clashes - everyone displayed appropriately reverent attitude to the historic 100 years of independence celebration - and when they didn't, the police was on standby keeping the red vermin from attacking peaceful marchers. To certain resident's great disappointment, no doubt.

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 Post subject: Re: Finland about to celebrate 100 years of independence..
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Now it's called "Alpaca-gate".

http://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/201712082200591839_u0.shtml

It is quite sick how far the far left is ready to go.

Not only do they resort to violence against peaceful Finns carrying Finnish flags- yes nero, Finnish flags. That there were people present carrying other flags - no one was excluded even if people did not agree with them.

Not only do they do that, they are now trying to use children and Alpacas as "victims" of the patriotic marchers.

It's almost restoring some of my faith in our media that this was uncovered and picked up.

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Alpacas are not native to Finland.

I applaud efforts efforts to promote Alpacas in Finland as the camelidae family is grossly underrepresented in Finland.

Finnish authorities should create some nature areas in Helsinki parks for Alpacas to roam free and unhindered.

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 Post subject: Re: Finland about to celebrate 100 years of independence..
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Good luck with your Helsinki Grand Mosque.

Not much luck needed, the mosque plan was sunk by an unanimous decision: Helsinki rejects long-discussed grand mosque project.

So it goes.

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Good luck with your Helsinki Grand Mosque.

Not much luck needed, the mosque plan was sunk by an unanimous decision: Helsinki rejects long-discussed grand mosque project.

So it goes.


It just means another round of bribes from Middle-East to Finnish politicians is required, it's not like politicians are known to resist bribes thus far.

Also, the organization that is seeking to control the building of the mosque is ran by people who have rather dubious history regarding use of money and obedience with law, like most Muslim organizations that are rampant with corruption and malpractice.

The Nordic way of being held accountable, having to actually pay your taxes and manage a two entry bookkeeping must have come as a major cultural shock.

Kind of like they first tried to tell these immigrants at the reception centers that "just because someone isn't wearing a burkha doesn't mean it's an invitation to rape them" but noticed that it doesn't work and then started to urge women to integrate with Muslim dress code.

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Finland - celebrates 100 years of illegal independence from Russia.

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 Post subject: Re: Finland about to celebrate 100 years of independence..
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Not much luck needed, the mosque plan was sunk by an unanimous decision: Helsinki rejects long-discussed grand mosque project.

So it goes.


It just means another round of bribes from Middle-East to Finnish politicians is required, it's not like politicians are known to resist bribes thus far.
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Bribes? Who's kidding who? :lol:

Helsinki is not FIFA. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Finland about to celebrate 100 years of independence..
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Bribes? Who's kidding who? :lol:

Helsinki is not FIFA. ;)


I didn't realize you actually bought that because Finland is listed on some unremarkable list as 'least corrupt in the world' that this somehow implies that there is next to no corruption here.

Especially considering the list is based on interviews of top level politicians and CEOs and when we have this culture of "keeping up appearances" or "älä pasko omaan pesään", which to foreigners means that you can say anything about your home region and it's people and companies as long as it's overly positive. If you can't come up with anything else you can always say "we have a lot of trees and thousands of lakes" or make some arbitrary notion about weather like "we have snow during winter".

It's like determining which company is the most profitable by asking where the employees are the happiest. By pure coincidence the health center that had the happiest employees of any company or organization in the country also had tremendous neglects and oversights committed by the staff though no one was ever reprimanded or much less fired even if they forgot patients into operation room for so long that their aenesthetics wore off and they wandered off in search staff members.

I am quite familiar with the ways Finnish corruption works. Just because we don't have a culture of golden handshakes where you literally pass some cash while shaking someone's hand doesn't mean there's no corruption. It is much, much more subtle and insidious than that. It is so nepotistic and close knit system that it is in fact difficult to get to the position where you can even attempt to bribe anyone.

Not that you'd ever run into any of it as a regular developer who's content with collecting his salary and minding his own business but it is there and it is even more powerful than in many countries that are considered corrupt - at least in those countries you can buy permissions. Over here you need to belong to the correct "sauna club" just to get that chance.

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 Post subject: Re: Finland about to celebrate 100 years of independence..
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Kameolontti wrote:
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Bribes? Who's kidding who? :lol:

Helsinki is not FIFA. ;)


I didn't realize you actually bought that because Finland is listed on some unremarkable list as 'least corrupt in the world' that this somehow implies that there is next to no corruption here.

Especially considering the list is based on interviews of top level politicians and CEOs and when we have this culture of "keeping up appearances" or "älä pasko omaan pesään", which to foreigners means that you can say anything about your home region and it's people and companies as long as it's overly positive. If you can't come up with anything else you can always say "we have a lot of trees and thousands of lakes" or make some arbitrary notion about weather like "we have snow during winter".

It's like determining which company is the most profitable by asking where the employees are the happiest. By pure coincidence the health center that had the happiest employees of any company or organization in the country also had tremendous neglects and oversights committed by the staff though no one was ever reprimanded or much less fired even if they forgot patients into operation room for so long that their aenesthetics wore off and they wandered off in search staff members.

I am quite familiar with the ways Finnish corruption works. Just because we don't have a culture of golden handshakes where you literally pass some cash while shaking someone's hand doesn't mean there's no corruption. It is much, much more subtle and insidious than that. It is so nepotistic and close knit system that it is in fact difficult to get to the position where you can even attempt to bribe anyone.

Not that you'd ever run into any of it as a regular developer who's content with collecting his salary and minding his own business but it is there and it is even more powerful than in many countries that are considered corrupt - at least in those countries you can buy permissions. Over here you need to belong to the correct "sauna club" just to get that chance.

I know Finnish politics better than you do. I have considerably longer perspective than you have.

As for corruption, you are right. There is a lot of saunaseura, ruk-kurssi type of hyvä veli corruption all over. The kind of corruption that goes under the radar in the international surveys. :twisted:

But the prospect of muslim money buying Helsinki politicians to accept the Grand Mosque against the grand majority of people living in Helsinki is absurd. Never happens.

Helsinki != Kittilä. :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Finland about to celebrate 100 years of independence..
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There are plenty of examples of tax payer owned and paid infrastructure being sold as monopoly investments to foreign groups. This results in price hikes and deterioration of service. The politicians often end up receiving multi-million 'jobs' a few years later.

Also, the current trend of lawyerism is spreading rapidly. Workers can have to pay millions of reparations for their employees for revealing something such as illegal activity or other neglect that is defined as "technical detail" of how something is handled - the reparation means the worker has to repay the worth of damages caused to the organization including estimate of lost future opportunities and sales, any legal costs incurred from penalties that resulted from the revelation etc.

And who would ever in their right mind hire the guy who sank his ship due to problems of conscience?

Just look at the media. It is clear and obvious that the privately owned media receives strict ownership control. Not that employees would necessarily be allowed to disclose the existence of any legal agreements as this disclosure can be forbidden as part of the contract under threat of 50,000 - 500,000€ of reparations *per* violation, meaning if you disclose it online and it spreads you are fucked.



Besides, opposition to a Grand Sunni Mosque is populism, isn't that right? The primary #1 goal of any responsible politician is to oppose any and all forms of populism and tell the people how they *should* feel with the help of media. That is the essence of Western democracy, do the exact thing the people don't want so you avoid falling victim to populism.

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