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I saw some African anons on 4chan posting about this earlier today, got written off as Larpers but it seems maybe not...

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Soldiers are reported to have taken over the headquarters of Zimbabwe's national broadcaster, ZBC, amid a growing political crisis.

Explosions have also been reported in the capital, Harare, but the cause is unclear.

Earlier, the country's ambassador in South Africa denied talk of a coup.

It comes as Zimbabwe's ruling party accused the country's army chief of "treasonable conduct" after he warned of a possible military intervention.

General Constantino Chiwenga had challenged President Robert Mugabe after he sacked the vice-president.

Gen Chiwenga said the army was prepared to act to end purges within Mr Mugabe's Zanu-PF party.

Tensions were raised further on Tuesday when armoured vehicles were seen taking up positions on roads outside Harare, although their purpose was unclear.

Some staff at ZBC were manhandled when soldiers took over their offices in Harare, sources told Reuters.

Workers were told that they "should not worry", a source added, and that soldiers were only there to protect the site.

Soon afterwards, witnesses reported three loud explosions in the city centre, although the exact location is unclear.

The US State Department said it was "closely monitoring" the situation in Zimbabwe and urged all parties to resolve disputes "calmly and peacefully".

The US embassy in Harare tweeted that it would be closed on Wednesday "due to ongoing uncertainty".

There has been no word so far from 93-year-old President Mugabe or his representatives.

The Zimbabwean ambassador to South Africa, Isaac Moyo, had told Reuters that the government was "intact" and dismissed any talk of a possible coup as "just social media claims".
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Due to ongoing uncertainty in Zimbabwe, the U.S. Embassy in Harare will be minimally staffed and closed to the public on November 15. Embassy personnel will continue to monitor the situation closely. @StateDept
— U.S. Embassy Harare (@usembassyharare) November 15, 2017

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Mr Mugabe sacked Vice-President Emmerson Mnangagwa last week, amid a row over succession.

Mr Mnangagwa had previously been seen as an heir to the president, but First Lady Grace Mugabe is now the clear front-runner.

The Zanu-PF party said Gen Chiwenga's comments were "calculated to disturb national peace... [and] incite insurrection".

The party said it would never succumb to military threats, and that it "reaffirms the primacy of politics over the gun".

The leader of Zanu-PF's youth wing, Kudzai Chipanga, said the general did not have the full support of the entire military.

"It is our country and future at stake and we will not let any individual military man interfere with the leader of the party and legitimately voted president of this country," he told reporters on Tuesday.

The youth wing is a strong supporter of Grace Mugabe.

Gen Chiwenga's warning of possible military intervention came on Monday at a news conference at army headquarters where he was surrounded by senior army officers.

He said the "purging" within Zanu-PF was "clearly targeting members of the party with a liberation background", referring to the country's struggle for independence.

"We must remind those behind the current treacherous shenanigans that when it comes to matters of protecting our revolution, the military will not hesitate to step in," he said.

Mr Mnangagwa is one such veteran of the 1970s war which led to independence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-41992351

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Zimbabwe And The “Bloodless Correction”

JAZZ SHAWPosted at 8:01 am on November 15, 2017

When is a coup not a coup? That’s the rather tricky question that the military of Zimbabwe is trying to avoid this morning. In just the past day the army seized control, took President Robert Mugabe and his wife into detention and deployed troops throughout the capital. But they really don’t want anyone calling it “a coup.” It’s actually a “bloodless correction” according to the army. I suppose a bloody coup is worse than a bloodless coup, so a bloodless correction must be even better yet. (Associated Press)

Zimbabwe’s army said Wednesday it has President Robert Mugabe and his wife in custody and is securing government offices and patrolling the capital’s streets following a night of unrest that included a military takeover of the state broadcaster.

The night’s action triggered speculation of a coup, but the military’s supporters praised it as a “bloodless correction.”

For the first time, this southern African nation is seeing the military oppose Mugabe, the world’s oldest head of state and one of the longest-serving authoritarian rulers. Mugabe has been in power since Zimbabwe’s independence from white minority rule in 1980.


Shortly after the military took over the government, Major General Sibusiso Moyo issued a statement saying, “We wish to make it abundantly clear that this is not a military takeover.” This military is simply targeting criminals “around Robert Mugabe.” Thus far they seem to be good to their word, at least in terms of assuring everyone that Mugabe is “safe.” South Africa’s President Jacob Zuma issued a statement saying that he had spoken to Mugabe on the phone and learned that he was “confined to his home but that he was fine.”

In another sign that this is absolutely in no way to be considered a military coup, the army took control of the nation’s media outlets who all mysteriously failed to report that the army was moving through the capital and the President was under detention. I suppose that was one of those “local news stories” that you just can’t fit into chyron.

While military coups have historically been disastrous for nations in most cases, there have been some instances where they’ve achieved at least some level of success and improvement. One could argue that the last military takeover in Egypt resulted in more stability and less violence in the streets, even if human rights abuses are still rampant. So will Zimbabwe similarly benefit from this?

I’m not getting my hopes up yet. The military doesn’t seem to be throwing out a brutal dictator in the interest of freeing the citizens of the nation. Just last week Mugabe fired his Vice President, Emmerson Mnangagwa, who then fled the country. He vowed to return and, “lead the nation.” He also happens to be very popular with the nation’s war veterans and the military. This is sounding like a bit much to be written off to coincidence at this point.

Let’s keep in mind that Mugabe is no saint. In fact, he’s been one of the more brutal, authoritarian rulers on the continent since he took power in the 80s. Mugabe has been accused of racial purging, massive corruption, fiscal mismanagement, human rights violations and crimes against humanity. How he’s managed to stay in power this long has always been something of a mystery to me. But now, at least for the moment, he’s under house arrest and his reign may be ending. Will Mnangagwa be any better? Cross your fingers and hope for the best, I suppose. And that’s assuming the the military is good to their word and turns the government back over to civilian control.




“bloodless correction”

That sounds like an outpatient medical procedure.... :lol:

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Someone else wants their turn at the trough is all.

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Mugabe's wife had been positioning herself as his successor.
Perhaps someone else took exception that that.

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How Robert Mugabe killed one of Africa's richest economies
by Alanna Petroff @AlannaPetroff November 15, 2017: 1:19 PM ET
http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/15/news/ec ... index.html
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Zimbabwe was once the bread basket of Africa. But it's been slammed by industrial mismanagement, food shortages, a collapsed currency and rampant corruption.

Military leaders have seized control of the country in an apparent coup, deploying tanks in the capital city of Harare and placing 93-year-old President Robert Mugabe under house arrest.

Mugabe has led the nation for nearly four decades, and is widely blamed for its economic collapse.

Here's the story behind Zimbabwe's economic rise and fall:

1980s

Mugabe was elected the first prime minister of a newly independent Zimbabwe in 1980 after spending years in prison for his politics.

He was adored by many as a Nelson Mandela-style figure who would lead the country forward following decades of British and white-dominated rule.

"He always had a populist stance, which meant he wanted to work in the best interest of his people but not necessarily the economy," said Funmi Akinluyi, a portfolio manager who invests in Africa and frontier markets at Silk Invest.

Mugabe earned international recognition for education and health initiatives, and the nation steadily grew its exports of manufactured and agricultural products. Zimbabwe was famous for its tobacco production, and its weather supported year-round farming.

1990s

As Mugabe's political momentum faded, critics accused him of using brutality and bribery to maintain his power. He has consistently denied wrongdoing.

Mugabe's mismanagement of the country's farming sector was a turning point that contributed to an economic catastrophe.

The aim of government land reforms was to end decades of farm ownership by white landlords, which many viewed as a colonial injustice.

The 1992 "Land Acquisition Act" allowed Mugabe to force landowners to give up their property and redistribute it. In 1993, Mugabe threatened to expel white landowners who objected to the rules.

2000s

It wasn't until 2000 that Mugabe's campaign gathered strength and he forced 4,000 white farmers to give up their land. Zimbabwe's agricultural output dropped almost overnight.

"There was an immediate food shortage," remembers Akinluyi. "People went hungry."

The move was followed by two years of bad harvests and an extended dry spell, leading to the country's worst famine in 60 years.

In the midst of chronic shortages of basic goods, the central bank ramped up its money-printing machines to finance imports. The result was rampant inflation.

At the peak of the crisis, prices were doubling every 24 hours. Cato Institute economists estimate monthly inflation peaked at 7.9 billion percent in 2008.

Unemployment soared, public services collapsed and the economy shrank by 18% in 2008.

Zimbabwe abandoned its currency in 2009, leaving transactions to be conducted in U.S. dollars, South African rand and seven other currencies.

2010s

Mugabe responded to international sanctions in 2010 by threatening to seize all Western-owned investments in the country.

The threat has kept prospective investors away.

"The political risk outweighs the opportunity that you know is there," said Akinluyi.

Mugabe's government had shifted its focus from farms to mines, ordering nearly all diamond miners to halt activity and abandon their facilities. The plan is for a state-run entity to take over operations.
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President Robert Mugabe has led Zimbabwe since 1980. He is now 93 years old.

Zimbabwe now struggles to earn cash from outside nations after strangling top export industries. A severe drought has squeezed the country further, leading to frequent bank runs in 2016.

Late last year, the country began printing so-called bond notes, worth $1 each, in a bid to ease a chronic cash shortage.

Akinluyi said the current situation is upsetting because Zimbabwe had so much potential.

"They have diamonds, coal, copper, iron ore... [You] name it, they have resources," she said. "I personally think it would be quick [to turn things around] with the right person in power."

-- Ivana Kottasova and Eleni Giokos contributed reporting.
CNNMoney (London) First published November 15, 2017: 1:19 PM ET
I agree, but not with African Socialism:
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African socialism is a belief in sharing economic resources in a traditional African way, as distinct from classical socialism. Many African politicians of the 1950s and 1960s professed their support for African socialism, although definitions and interpretations of this term varied considerably. This is because African socialism has not been the product of one single thinker. One example of a definition of African socialism was phrased as a metaphor by de Graft Johnson, from the University of Ghana, in 1962: the African extended-family system writ large.[1]
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However, according to the BBC, "while he united his nation and made major advances in the fields of health and education," Julius Nyerere's African socialist "Ujamaa" collectives "proved disastrous for Tanzania's economy".[7]

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When you look up "Tragedy" in the dictionary, they have a full three-page fold-out centerfold of Zimbabwe! It is the southern African version of the Tigris & Euphrates "cradle of civilization," and one of the richest, most bountiful, beautiful lands on Earth. The white Rhodesians probably weren't the best exemplars of proper leadership; their notions of what African phenotypes mean seem to have dated from the 1880s . . . But as Doggie is apt to say: at least people weren't starving or hooking for a living. The Commie's got their claws into it, and dredged up a racialist "socialist" revolution which led to a bloody civil war, and out of that shit swirl, Mugabe rose to power.

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