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 Post subject: Re: California Dreaming
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Oh, I thought he said "London BREED" ... which might be someone SPECIAL !!!

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 Post subject: Re: California Dreaming
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Restaurants in San Francisco are bumming because they can't seem to draw employees from surrounding businesses into their places for lunch.
In fact they brought their concerns to the San Francisco municipal government.

So what's the solution for that?

Two SF commissioners want to ban new employers from having cafeterias in their offices where free food is served as a perk for employees.

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/07/26/ ... staurants/

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San Francisco May Ban Free Employer Lunches To Save Restaurants

JAZZ SHAWPosted at 9:21 am on July 26, 2018

Just as a heads up, we’re toying with the idea of starting a new partner blog focusing on nothing except “Dumb Things That Happen in San Francisco” because we could fill up the entire front page here with such stories and never cover them all. Today’s entry in the weird San Fran stories contest is yet another proposal from members of the city council which would (wait for it…) ban new employers from having cafeterias in their offices where free food is served as a perk for employees.

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Why would anyone consider such a thing? Because local restauranteurs are complaining that they can’t compete with a free lunch. (CBS San Francisco)

Two San Francisco supervisors want to do away with employer-provided free lunches, a perk enjoyed by thousands of people who work in the City. That’s because restaurant owners say they can’t compete.

It’s lunchtime at Perennial in SOMA but you wouldn’t know it. The seats are empty. Anthony Myint is the restaurant’s owner and says it’s extremely challenging owning a restaurant so close to big companies that have their own onsite free employee cafeterias.

“I think it’s never been harder to run a restaurant in the city then right now,” he said.

Other restaurant owners in the area agree.


I know what you’re probably thinking. They can’t actually do that, right? Could they really force employers to start charging for the food in their cafeterias? Probably not, but the answer is rather complicated. Trying to force an employee policy on all the businesses in the city could likely be successfully challenged in court. So they might not be able to impact the current businesses in San Francisco. But what they can do is change the building codes so that any new commercial structures (except for restaurants) can’t get a permit approved for a building with a kitchen or other food preparation area in it.

Man, talk about your brilliant plans. Whenever the government picks winners and losers in the private sector, things can only improve. Unfortunately, this reflexive instinct where left coasters always ask the government to intervene in each and every inconvenience they encounter rarely produces positive results. Those companies with in-house cafeterias aren’t “competing” with local restaurants because none of the rest of the people in the city can simply walk in, sit down and order a free lunch. It’s a perk for the workers which is offered to attract the best talent in a competitive labor market.

And it’s not just the free food. Anything that allows workers to avoid going out onto the streets in some of the worst traffic in the country is a huge plus. Eating at the shop also allows them to avoid the armies of homeless people crowding the streets, contributing to a constantly increasing violent crime problem. Have you ever considered the possibility that if you cleaned up some of those problems in your increasingly crapholish city, people might actually want to go out at lunchtime, hit the streets and grab some food?

But instead, you’ll bust the chops of the only companies who are still providing good jobs so people can afford to live in one of the most expensive cost of living municipalities in the country. This is a brilliant plan, guys. I’m really excited to see you put it into action.



California, and specifically San Francisco has among the highest cost of living of any city in the US.
So employees that have been given a free lunch as an employee perk, may now get the shaft because the city rulers have decided that giving your employees such a perk is a bad idea.

To those people who may soon lose their free lunches, I say remember this when election time comes around again.

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 Post subject: Re: California Dreaming
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Basically, it looks like SF wants private institutions with cafeterias to charge money, so that the cafeterias will have to obtain additional business licenses, health inspector fees, charge tax, etc. Aslo, prohibiting the expense going forward probably increases CA business tax.

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mdiehl wrote:
Basically, it looks like SF wants private institutions with cafeterias to charge money, so that the cafeterias will have to obtain additional business licenses, health inspector fees, charge tax, etc. Aslo, prohibiting the expense going forward probably increases CA business tax.



I can't say for certain (because I don't work in San Francisco) but I suspect that many of those cafeterias are probably outsourced to Sodexo or similar companies.
The employer probably isn't going to run the cafeteria themselves, so they outsource the operation to a 3rd party (like Sodexo). The employer picks up the cost rather than those employees paying for their caf lunches.

Sodexo would be essentially doing the same thing that they do in employer cafeterias that are not subsidized by the employers.
They would have to follow the same health inspection rules, and may get the same (or similar licenses) just to CYA.

You are correct in that there would not be a sales tax collected since the meals are free/not charged.

Existing cafeterias would be grandfathered per the article (so no loss of jobs to the people working in those cafs (cooks, servers, clean up people, etc), but it may limit the growth of that business line to Sodexo & others.

The two San Fran commissioners apparently give no shits for those who might benefit from an expansion of jobs in their field.

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 Post subject: Re: California Dreaming
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Technically I "work" in SF ... though 97% of the time I get excused to work from home in Kansas ... since I live there :D

But our offices have been in a WeWork for ... mmm ... six years ?

WeWork has coffee/tea machines ... water fountains ... refridgerators ... microwaves ... I think even stoves and ovens on some floors ... and plates and silverware and on and on ... and caterers do come in there and provide lunch ... but I am 97% sure everybody has to be licensed ... this doesn't sound like a revenue play by the city/state to me ... this sounds like some businesses outside in the street complaining because WeWork (et al ) didn't select them to provide lunch ... though our employees do eat lunch in the nearby establishments ... 19 days out of 20 ... per month ... so they really don't have anything to complain about anyway ... they are just making noise to see what happens ...

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... A San Francisco transit terminal which took nearly 10 years to build and cost more than $2 billion was shut down Tuesday after officials discovered a crack in a support beam ...


Is the BIG CA ... former "Tech Capital of the Worlde" ... now becoming a third world turd capital ???

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/26/san-franciscos-new-2-billion-terminal-shuts-down-after-crack-found-in-support-beam.html

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From above article ...

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... The Salesforce Transit Center had been operating for only a month. The project was financed by land sales, federal stimulus grants, district fees and taxes, bridge tolls, and federal and state funds ...

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Think how many millions of hours of math and science tutoring for disadvantaged SF metro area elementary school kids that boondoggle would pay for . . . You'd think that the "Tech Capital" of Earth would have its priorities straight. But the grandiose always seem to prefer to cloth themselves in finery rather than help those who could use the help.

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