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Re: Political Violence

#251 Post by nero » Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:40 pm

chijohnaok wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:36 pm
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Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:27 pm
Certainly trying to earn his next year neck decoration. :lol:



:lol:
Yeah, so Jones looked like an idiot when he did this March 2019.

He didn't drive a van through the restaurant though destroying things and scared the shit out of people.
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#252 Post by chijohnaok » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:29 pm

Dylann Roof was tried and found guilty in federal court and was sentenced to death by lethal injection. He is currently on federal death row.

Roof pleaded guilty to nine state counts of murder and was sentenced to nine consecutive sentences of life without parole.[6][7][8] In a letter to the victims' families, Wilson said that the plea deal was "an insurance policy" in the event that Roof's federal death sentence were ever overturned, as it assures that Roof will die in prison.

As for the El Paso shooter,
indicted on capital murder charges on September 12. On February 6, 2020 Crusius was charged with 90 federal charges: 22 counts of committing a hate crime resulting in death, 22 counts of use of a firearm to commit murder, 23 counts of a hate crime involving an attempt to kill and 23 counts of use of a firearm during a crime.[23][60] He pleaded not guilty to capital murder charges at his arraignment on October 10, 2019 at the El Paso County Courthouse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_El_P ... roceedings

Crusius will have his day in court.
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Re: Political Violence

#253 Post by nero » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:41 pm

chijohnaok wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:29 pm
Political violence is not acceptable.
I agree. But when any form of violence would be acceptable?

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In some cases.
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Re: Political Violence

#254 Post by chijohnaok » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:49 pm

nero wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:41 pm
chijohnaok wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:29 pm
Political violence is not acceptable.
I agree. But when any form of violence would be acceptable?

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In some cases.
That was not really an example of "political violence".
Your photo (presumably the Winter or Continuation War) was an invasion or act of war.
That is different.
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Re: Political Violence

#255 Post by nero » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:52 pm

chijohnaok wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:49 pm
nero wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:41 pm

I agree. But when any form of violence would be acceptable?

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In some cases.
That was not really an example of "political violence".
Your photo (presumably the Winter or Continuation War) was an invasion or act of war.
That is different.
I was talking of violence in general, not political violence. In general a visit to an optician helps ;) .
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Re: Political Violence

#256 Post by Anthropoid » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:56 pm

The distinction if one of collective and state-sanctioned violence versus not. The latter is also never going to be of value to any but a tiny segment of any given society. The latter may be of the greatest value to a large fraction of a society.

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#257 Post by chijohnaok » Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:26 am

The incident in Jacksonville, FL where the guy drove into a tent of GOP who were doing voter registration is now confirmed as intentionally done.

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https://twitter.com/Rick_Gorka/status/1 ... t-trump%2F
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#258 Post by chijohnaok » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:54 pm

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-ha ... lling-site

Published 3 hours ago

New Hampshire man arrested after allegedly assaulting pro-Trump teen at polling site

By Brooke Singman | Fox News

EXCLUSIVE: A New Hampshire man was arrested Thursday afternoon after allegedly assaulting a 15-year-old Trump supporter and two adults at a polling site during the state’s first-in-the-nation primary earlier this week.

The teen's mother said in an exclusive interview with Fox News after the arrest that her son is "traumatized."

The Windham Police Department said Patrick Bradley, 34, of Windham, was charged with simple assault and disorderly conduct.

Fox News has learned that the suspect got in the face of the teenage boy who was wearing a red “Make America Great Again” hat and volunteering at the Trump tent at Windham High School, a polling location for the New Hampshire primary.

Police said the incident happened Tuesday as Bradley exited the voting location inside the high school and was walking by a Trump campaign tent occupied by several supporters. As he passed by the tent, police said, Bradley slapped a 15-year old juvenile across the face and then assaulted two other adults who attempted to intercede.

Bradley is also accused of throwing Trump campaign signs and attempting to knock over the campaign tent, police said.

In the interview with Fox News, the boy’s mother, Cathy Campbell, described the incident involving her son, requesting he remains anonymous.

“My son stayed home from school on Tuesday for a doctor's appointment and we drove by the high school to go vote. When we got there, we saw Donald Trump Jr. and Kimberly Guilfoyle, and my son was over the moon,” she said. “My son is the most patriotic kid you’d ever meet in your life.”

The Trump campaign confirmed that both Trump Jr. and Guilfoyle were at the polling place on Tuesday.

Campbell told Fox News that later in the day, her son was invited to volunteer at the polling site and hold Trump signs outside the school.

“I was apprehensive about him wearing the MAGA hat, because we know it can provoke and we know people don’t like Trump,” she explained. “But he wore the hat because he’s a proud 15-year-old and he doesn’t know what people are going to be like.”

Campbell said she dropped her son off to volunteer at the school.

“My son was standing outside on the sidewalk and he said ‘have a nice night,’ he said it to everyone. But this man was triggered,” Campbell explained. “He said ‘f--- you’ to him and wound up his hand as fast as he could and slapped him across the face.”

Campbell said that a man, also wearing a MAGA hat, came over to intervene. According to Campbell, that man now has a fractured jaw.

Campbell told Fox News that her husband is a firefighter in town and was on duty during the incident.

“He got the call about the assault and didn’t know it was our son until he got there,” she explained.

“He’s the sweetest kid,” Campbell said of her son. “He was so excited and not realizing that something like this could happen.”

FLORIDA MAN WHO SPAT ON 'MAGA' HAT-WEARING BAR PATRON GETS 90 DAYS IN JAIL

Since the incident Tuesday, Campbell said her son is “pretty traumatized.”

“This guy lives in our town. It’s pretty unnerving,” she said, but added that her son has been going to school and is getting “a lot of support from his peers.”

“There will always be the people who try to blame the victim,” she said. “But he certainly did nothing wrong.”

She added: “It’s scary that you can’t express without which political party you are. People need to know how much intolerance there is right now.”

“It sickens me that people would be angry at a kid for wearing a stupid hat,” she said. “And everybody that has reached out has just talked about what an amazing kid he is.”

Campbell said her son, a sophomore at Windham High School, loves history and World War II.

Campbell also explained that she and her family are “Republicans, and we are Trump supporters.”

“He’s not perfect, but he’s our president and we support him,” she said.
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WTF is wrong with people?

Slapping a 15 yr old kid and then fracturing someone’s jaw.

There is a photo of the attacker at the above linked article.
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Re: Political Violence

#259 Post by chijohnaok » Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:48 pm

And, yet another incident from the peaceful tolerant left:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/florida-ma ... ane-sword/
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Florida Man Attacks Trump Supporters With ... a Cane Sword

BY TYLER O'NEIL FEBRUARY 13, 2020

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Mugshot of James L. Whitehurst II

Peaceful Florida citizens holding Trump signs were minding their own business in Dunnellon, Fla., last Thursday when a man rushed at them with a cane sword.

Police arrested 49-year-old James L. Whitehurst II and charged him with 10 counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and one count of disorderly conduct, the Ocala Star Banner reported.

Victims reportedly told police that Whitehurst had approached them during their peaceful assembly with what was described as a cane sword. The assailant allegedly pointed the sword in their faces and made threatening statements, holding the blade 6 inches from their faces.

Whitehurst confessed to having removed the sword from its holder and pointing it at the Trump supporters. He told police he meant no harm by the threatening action.

This assault took place amid a flurry of new attacks on actual or perceived Trump supporters. On Saturday, a man crashed his van into a tent where Trump campaign volunteers were registering voters. That driver later confessed his animosity to Trump and compared the president to "someone s****ing on your grave." Earlier this week, a woman sucker-punched a man in a New York City bar because he wore a MAGA-style hat reading "Make Fifty Great Again."


These attacks remind me of the assault against Minnesota state House candidate Shane Mekeland. An angry man sucker-punched him in the head in 2018, while accusing Mekeland of not caring about the middle class. Mekeland blamed Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.), former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and former Attorney General Eric Holder for instigating this kind of violence. "They're constantly driving this narrative of 'It's okay to be violent,'" he told PJ Media.

Waters called for activists to harass members of the Trump administration in public places like gas stations and restaurants. Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) encouraged activists to "get up in the face" of Republican candidates and office-holders. Hillary Clinton said Democrats "cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for." Eric Holder declared, "When they go low, we kick them."

Liberals who routinely demonize Trump and his supporters as fascists or Nazis are fostering this culture of animosity and fear. Americans must return to civility.
He told police he meant no harm by the threatening action.
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Right, I mean what other conclusion can one arrive at when someone is waving a sword 6 inches from your face and making threatening statements at you.
That's totally peaceful, right Nero?



You can read local press coverage of the incident here:
https://www.ocala.com/news/20200206/can ... supporters
DUNNELLON — A 49-year-old Dunnellon man accused of threatening multiple people favorable to President Donald Trump, was arrested and charged with 10 counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and one count of disorderly conduct by police.
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#260 Post by chijohnaok » Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:49 pm

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