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Re: Political Violence

#231 Post by Anthropoid » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:03 am

. . . or this . . .
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Re: Political Violence

#232 Post by chijohnaok » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:04 pm

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Theresa May calls on BBC to explain why Jo Brand battery acid joke was broadcast

Heresy panellists are "often deliberately provocative... but not intended to be taken seriously", the BBC has said.

Thursday 13 June 2019 15:37, UK

Theresa May has called on the BBC to explain why a joke made by Jo Brand about throwing battery acid was broadcast on one of its radio shows.

Brand, 61, has been accused of inciting violence after making the comment on Victoria Coren Mitchell's Radio 4 show Heresy, referring to recent protests in which milkshakes have been thrown at right-wing politicians.

The BBC defended the comedian following the backlash, saying panellists are often "deliberately provocative" but "not intended to be taken seriously".
Now the prime minister has stepped into the row, with her spokesman saying: "The prime minister has consistently said politicians should be able to campaign without harassment, intimidation and abuse.

"It is for the BBC to explain why it was appropriate content to broadcast."

Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage, who was covered in milkshake during a campaign walkabout in Newcastle last month, accused Brand of inciting violence, while several social media users have compared the BBC's response with Danny Baker's sacking over an alleged racist tweet about royal baby Archie.

During her appearance on Heresy, in reply to a question about the state of UK politics, Brand said: "Well, yes I would say that but that's because certain unpleasant characters are being thrown to the fore and they're very, very easy to hate and I'm kind of thinking: 'Why bother with a milkshake when you could get some battery acid?'

"That's just me. I'm not going to do it, it's purely a fantasy, but I think milkshakes are pathetic, I honestly do, sorry."

Defending the show, a BBC spokeswoman said: "Heresy is a long-running comedy programme where, as the title implies and as our listeners know, panellists often say things which are deliberately provocative and go against societal norms but are not intended to be taken seriously."

In a tweet, Mr Farage said Brand's comment was "incitement of violence and the police need to act".

TV presenter Piers Morgan is among those making the comparison with Baker's sacking, saying: "Why did the BBC instantly sack Danny Baker for an offensive royal baby tweet but won't sack Jo Brand for saying she'd like acid to be thrown at politicians?"

Broadcasting watchdog Ofcom said that, as of Wednesday afternoon, it had received 19 complaints about the Heresy episode in question.


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Nigel! I’m genuinely disappointed; we don’t agree on everything, but I would totally have had you down as a free speech man. Especially when it comes to jokes.
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This is incitement of violence and the police need to act.
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At the end of show, Coren Mitchell said she hoped Brand's remarks had not caused offence but added that the aim of the radio series was to "test the boundaries of what it's okay to say and not say".

The quiz host and television personality, 46, later responded to Mr Farage on Twitter, accusing him of double standards.

She wrote: "Nigel! I'm genuinely disappointed; we don't agree on everything, but I would totally have had you down as a free speech man. Especially when it comes to jokes."

The trend of throwing milkshakes at right-wing politicians and activists began when viral footage showed Tommy Robinson being covered in Warrington.

Since then, several other members of the public have attempted to repeat the protest.
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Re: Political Violence

#233 Post by Anthropoid » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:41 am

I enjoy these guys! Nordic Socialist Utopians probably don't get it.

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Re: Political Violence

#234 Post by chijohnaok » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:41 am

Not "extreme" violence per se but.....



TDS person was (legally) fine for most of that interchange until she physically accosted someone for videotaping an auto license plate.

I hope that the video is admitted as evidence in court (both for the hearing for the person who was attacked and for the hearing of the attacker).
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Re: Political Violence

#235 Post by Mac » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:36 pm

A New York City art gallery owner gets his head stoved in by a bunch of teens for wearing a MAGA hat...
A New York City art gallery owner says he was viciously beaten in Manhattan by a large group of teens for wearing a "Make America Great Again" hat.

Jahangir "John" Turan, 42, says it happened Tuesday evening on Canal Street. He was wearing the MAGA hat that he had purchased earlier in the day at Trump Tower.

"I love President Trump. I think he's doing a great job," Turan said.

He says the group of about 15 "kids" yelled "F*** Trump" and stomped on him. One of them smashed his head into a scaffold. Turan says he suffered a fracture in his cheek and a badly swollen eye. He's awaiting an eye specialist to determine if there is any permanent damage to his sight.

He held a Thursday afternoon news conference to demand that the NYPD find those responsible for the attack.

As for wearing the hat again in New York City, he says he'll think twice before doing it again.

"It's sad to get beat up for wearing this hat. This is America," Turan said.

FOX 5 NY will update this story with any police statement.

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/maga-hat-beating
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Re: Political Violence

#236 Post by chijohnaok » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:44 pm

Mac wrote:A New York City art gallery owner gets his head stoved in by a bunch of teens for wearing a MAGA hat...
A New York City art gallery owner says he was viciously beaten in Manhattan by a large group of teens for wearing a "Make America Great Again" hat.

Jahangir "John" Turan, 42, says it happened Tuesday evening on Canal Street. He was wearing the MAGA hat that he had purchased earlier in the day at Trump Tower.

"I love President Trump. I think he's doing a great job," Turan said.

He says the group of about 15 "kids" yelled "F*** Trump" and stomped on him. One of them smashed his head into a scaffold. Turan says he suffered a fracture in his cheek and a badly swollen eye. He's awaiting an eye specialist to determine if there is any permanent damage to his sight.

He held a Thursday afternoon news conference to demand that the NYPD find those responsible for the attack.

As for wearing the hat again in New York City, he says he'll think twice before doing it again.

"It's sad to get beat up for wearing this hat. This is America," Turan said.

FOX 5 NY will update this story with any police statement.

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/maga-hat-beating
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Another person of color beaten for their political views.
So sad.
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Re: Political Violence

#237 Post by nero » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:50 pm

Perhaps this was revenge for the garlic festival shooting? :roll:

The perp there was of Turanian origin.

Just a thought.
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Re: Political Violence

#238 Post by chijohnaok » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:50 pm

Regarding the gallery owner:
He also alleges that when police arrived the group was still saying anti-Trump statements, but police did nothing. He says he hopes police can make an arrest.
but
The NYPD also said they have no description of the alleged perpetrators.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/O ... 02341.html

FFS, how could they not have description or NOT have made an arrest if the perpetrators were still on scene when the police arrived?????
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Re: Political Violence

#239 Post by chijohnaok » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:53 pm

nero wrote:Perhaps this was revenge for the garlic festival shooting? :roll:

The perp there was of Turanian origin.

Just a thought.
Are you implying that somehow justifies the attack????

Is there any evidence thus far that the garlic festival shooter was a Trump supporter?
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Re: Political Violence

#240 Post by nero » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:56 pm

chijohnaok wrote:Regarding the gallery owner:
He also alleges that when police arrived the group was still saying anti-Trump statements, but police did nothing. He says he hopes police can make an arrest.
but
The NYPD also said they have no description of the alleged perpetrators.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/O ... 02341.html

FFS, how could they not have description or NOT have made an arrest if the perpetrators were still on scene when the police arrived?????
If it a case of degenerate art it just natural act against it.

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