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 Post subject: Re: Reality Winner says "being white is terrorism"
PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:45 am 
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You need to throw the book at leakers because she had a top secret clearance and leaked classified material about an ongoing NSA investigations.


She is pretty convincingly a Bernie supporter and, by her actions, a Trump hater. Now, you could say Hildabeast might have induced her with the whole "Resist" bullshit and I would agree but US national security needs outweigh the political concerns of 25 year old Leftists. She does not get to decide what is classified. In this case there was no crime committed by "US persons" and there was no 4th Amendment overreach by the USA (the 4th Amendment issues were with misuse of the FISA Court and unmasking.

She can't make the can't make the "whistle-blower" claim like Snowden can partly claim.

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You need to throw the book at leakers because she had a top secret clearance and leaked classified material about an ongoing NSA investigations.


She is pretty convincingly a Bernie supporter and, by her actions, a Trump hater. Now, you could say Hildabeast might have induced her with the whole "Resist" bullshit and I would agree but US national security needs outweigh the political concerns of 25 year old Leftists. She does not get to decide what is classified. In this case there was no crime committed by "US persons" and there was no 4th Amendment overreach by the USA (the 4th Amendment issues were with misuse of the FISA Court and unmasking.

She can't make the can't make the "whistle-blower" claim like Snowden can partly claim.



Yup, my son is getting vetted for his TS this year....we are afraid that something he did while living at Ft Jackson that resulted in questioning but not charges will give him blowback.....

the wife and I both managed to get by with simple S clearances, at the end of the day you can be a screamsheet batshit crazy leftoid leak waiting to happen and you get waved right on in.....

Nail her ass now and have her serve out at least Trump's term.

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 Post subject: Re: Reality Winner says "being white is terrorism"
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NSA needs to have hard look at their contractors if you ask me.

Both Bernie and Hildabeast and even Chuck U Schumer need to dial it back. In fact Trump should dump on both Hildabeast and Schummer and the Congress and the Special Counsel need to knock some heads publicly

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 Post subject: Re: Reality Winner says "being white is terrorism"
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. . . you can support the historic right of the American people to own what they want period that existed until the 1930s or tolerate the "sensible gun control" of 1934 as the absolute maximum abridgement and still honor the 2d amendment


A topic for a different thread but I think I'm of a different mind.

Based on what the founders wrote down, I find it hard to argue that a law-abiding and responsible U.S. citizen should be precluded from owning ANY weapon. Not to say I'm in final absolute decision on the matter, but erring on the side of full-autos and heavy machine guns, if not mortars and anti-tank weapons seems appropriate to me.

Militia.

What is a "militia?" What did a militia comprise in 500BC? What did it comprise in 1000AD? What did it comprise in 1775 AD? What should it comprise in 2017?

As warfare (and society) change, the nature of "militia" will change too, and we must recognize that the specifics of what the 2nd Amendment affords to American citizens must change too.

Those are the salient questions, and the historical examples are merely to provide historical context--thus, not necessarily salient, but worth considering . . . But like I said, for a different thread.

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NSA needs to have hard look at their contractors if you ask me.

Both Bernie and Hildabeast and even Chuck U Schumer need to dial it back. In fact Trump should dump on both Hildabeast and Schummer and the Congress and the Special Counsel need to knock some heads publicly



Want to know what the most underreported "gosh foreign infiltration" story of the year is?

http://nationalsecurity.news/2017-05-22 ... crats.html

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A manager at a tech-services company that works with Democratic House offices said he approached congressional offices, offering their services at one-fourth the price of Awan and his Pakistani brothers, but the members declined. At the time, he couldn’t understand why his offers were rejected but now he suspects the Awans exerted some type of leverage over members.

“There’s no question about it: If I was accused of a tenth of what these guys are accused of, they’d take me out in handcuffs that same day, and I’d never work again,” he said.


If I didn't know any better I'd say the Democrats are get this enthralled by radical Islam.

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 Post subject: Re: Reality Winner says "being white is terrorism"
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NSA needs to have hard look at their contractors if you ask me.

Both Bernie and Hildabeast and even Chuck U Schumer need to dial it back. In fact Trump should dump on both Hildabeast and Schummer and the Congress and the Special Counsel need to knock some heads publicly


I'm OK with Sanders dialing it up. Chaos in DC could only be good for the republic in comparison with what we've had for the last 57 years.

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Reality Winner Sandy Berger'ed classified documents:

http://nypost.com/2017/09/27/accused-ns ... pantyhose/

I wonder if she will end up with a punishment similar to the one that Berger received?
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Berger was fined $50,000,[23] sentenced to serve two years of probation and 100 hours of community service, and stripped of his security clearance for 3 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Ber ... d_material

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 Post subject: Re: Reality Winner says "being white is terrorism"
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No, Berger did not pay a dime in fines, retired on a generous pension and is invited to all the swankiest cocktail parties. Bimbo will also live well on her reputation.

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“There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”

― Jesse Jackson
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/5978-t ... this-stage

Obama's grandmother said the same.

IMHO that's terrorism.

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 Post subject: Re: Reality Winner says "being white is terrorism"
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:33 am 
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With a name like reality winner she was destined for an FBI file since birth.

She is not the only leaker because she probably did not have the unmasked names. Even so, she needs a 10 year sentence.

The good news for the Obama administration is she was likely not taking directions.


My bold emphasis above


Well, she got a little more than half that.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/26/us/r ... -plea.html

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Reality Winner, N.S.A. Contractor Accused in Leak, Pleads Guilty

By Charlie Savage and Alan Blinder
June 26, 2018

WASHINGTON — Reality L. Winner, a former Air Force linguist who was the first person prosecuted by the Trump administration on charges of leaking classified information, pleaded guilty on Tuesday as part of an agreement with prosecutors that calls for a sentence of 63 months in prison.

Ms. Winner, who entered her plea in Federal District Court in Augusta, Ga., was arrested last June and accused of sharing a classified report about Russian interference in the 2016 election with the news media.

Ms. Winner, who is now 26, has been jailed since her arrest. Her decision to plead guilty to one felony count allows the government both to avoid a complex trial that had been scheduled for October and to notch a victory in the Trump administration’s aggressive pursuit of leakers.

“All of my actions I did willfully, meaning I did so of my own free will,” Ms. Winner said in court on Tuesday.

Ms. Winner, who was honorably discharged from the Air Force in 2016, was working as a contractor for the National Security Agency when she obtained a copy of a report that described hacks by a Russian intelligence service against local election officials and a company that sold software related to voter registration.

The Intercept, an online news outlet that a prosecutor said Ms. Winner admired, published a copy of the top secret report shortly before Ms. Winner’s arrest was made public. The report described two cyberattacks by Russia’s military intelligence unit, the G.R.U. — one in August against a company that sells voter registration-related software and another, a few days before the election, against 122 local election officials.

At a detention hearing last year, the prosecutor, Jennifer G. Solari, said that Ms. Winner had been “mad about some things she had seen in the media, and she wanted to set the facts right.”

An F.B.I. affidavit made public when she was arrested last year said there was a visible crease mark on the file, a scan of which The Intercept had provided to the government while trying to authenticate it. That prompted investigators to surmise it was a printout.

Audit trails showed six people had printed copies, but only one — Ms. Winner — had used a work computer to send emails to The Intercept. A search warrant application said she had found the report by plugging keywords into the N.S.A.’s system that fell outside her normal work duties.

Moreover, while the F.B.I. did not mention it in court filings, computer security experts noted that the printer appeared to leave barely visible microdots on the printout identifying the serial number of the printer and the date and time of the printing: 6:20 a.m. on May 9, 2017.


Once rare, leak cases have become much more common in the 21st century, in part because of such electronic trails. Depending on how they are counted, the Obama administration brought nine or 10 leak-related prosecutions — about twice as many as were brought under all previous presidencies combined.

The Justice Department prosecuted Ms. Winner under the Espionage Act, a World War I-era law that criminalizes the unauthorized disclosure of national-security secrets that could be used to harm the United States or aid a foreign adversary. Defendants facing such charges are not permitted to argued to a jury during trial that they should vote to acquit because the disclosure was in the public interest.

Ms. Winner’s prosecution galvanized transparency advocates, who mounted a publicity campaign in her support that even included a billboard in Augusta, the east Georgia city where Ms. Winner lived at the time of her arrest. They were particularly infuriated by a judge’s ruling that she be held until her trial.

“They’re just coming down on her so tough,” Billie Winner-Davis, Ms. Winner’s mother, said in an interview after Tuesday’s plea hearing was scheduled. “I can only think that it’s because she was the very first one: the one they wanted to make an example out of, the one they wanted to nail to the door as a message to others.”

Still, Ms. Winner-Davis said of her daughter’s willingness to plead guilty, “She wouldn’t have made this decision if she wasn’t ready to accept the consequences and to accept responsibility.”

Ms. Winner is the second person known to have reached a plea agreement with the Trump administration to resolve a leak prosecution. A former F.B.I. agent, Terry J. Albury, pleaded guilty in April, but prosecutors in that case have signaled that they will ask that he serve 46 to 57 months in prison.

The Justice Department has brought at least two other leak-related cases under the Trump administration.

Earlier this month, James Wolfe, former Senate Intelligence Committee staffer, was arrested and charged with lying to the F.B.I. about his contacts with reporters, including a Times reporter with whom he had a personal relationship and whose phone records the department secretly seized, during a leak investigation; Mr. Wolfe has not been charged with leaking classified information, however. He has pleaded not guilty.

Also this month, Joshua A. Schulte, a former C.I.A. software engineer, with charged with violating the Espionage Act and other laws based on accusations that he sent a stolen archive of documents and electronic tools related to the agency’s hacking operations to WikiLkeas, which dubbed them the Vault 7 leak. Mr. Schulte had already been facing child pornography charges.

A judge must still decide whether to approve her sentence after reviewing a report that prosecutors will present. But prosecutors’ recommendation of more than five years in prison — followed by three years of supervised release — was unusually harsh for a leak case.

For most of American history, people accused of leaking to the news media were not prosecuted at all. In the flurry of cases that have arisen during the 21st century, most convicted defendants were sentenced to one to three-and-a-half years.

One — Chelsea Manning, who was convicted at a military court-martial for sending large archives of military and diplomatic documents to WikiLeaks — was sentenced to 35 years in prison, but served only about seven years because President Barack Obama commuted the remainder of her sentence.

Ms. Winner’s mother, who has spoken with Ms. Winner regularly since the arrest, suggested that they both feared how she would be perceived going forward.

“She said she wants the world to know that she does love her country, and she is a patriot,” she said. “I don’t want her to go down in history as a traitor to her country.”

Charlie Savage reported from Washington, and Alan Blinder from Atlanta. Max Blau contributed reporting from Augusta, Ga.


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