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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:07 pm 
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https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-most-elite-special-forces-unit-in-your-country/answer/Sami-Kukkonen?srid=zfqv

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Finland.

Every year 35 000 men are called to military service in Finland.

20 of them qualify to enter Diving School that trains divers for demolition and combat. If you enjoy darkness, diving under the ice and hypothermia, it’s the school for you.

Training starts in January when the average Baltic Sea water temperature is 1° C (34° F) . The morning routine includes making a hole in the ice for skinny dipping.

Senior Lieutenant Markus Aarnio entered the US Navy Seal training program in 1987 because he wanted to learn how divers are trained elsewhere. He was the first soldier from a Nordic country to complete the program. In 2014 he talked about his experience in a radio interview; a major reason why 80% of his Navy Seal class dropped out was being cold all the time. He did not have that problem.

These soldiers are not ordinary. Yet they are conscripts and not professionals; after 347 days of training they return to civilian life as reservists.
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Water is 4° C today? Hot tub party.


20 out of 35,000. That's actually the same amount that get qualified to become F-18 pilots, by the way. They initially choose 40 out of whom 20 will get trained.

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We (Finns) are having a big exercise focusing on the Local Defense forces and their cooperation with authorities such as police "in demanding situations". Read - in case some Russian infiltrator units try to set up roadblocks and interfere with mobilization or if there's a terror attack.

This is a part of a long series of large scale exercises that aim for creating a seamless cooperation between various branches such as police, local defense forces, border guard and the defense forces.

Local defense forces bring to table their local knowledge - they operate in their home towns and the surrounding area, acting as sort of local garrison of guerrillas, fully armed as light infantry including full complement of support weapons. They are organized around Local Battalion 2015 OOB with various battalions having slight differences in equipment to reflect their different surroundings, from the more mobile northern ones to the more heavily armed urban battalions of the big cities.

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The navy is talking about the collisions ... this is good ...

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... Simply put, through no fault of their own, ships’ crews are stretched far too thin, and they are insufficiently trained, top to bottom. What has not been discussed, but which should be significantly more concerning, is the fact that if ships’ officers are not up to the fundamental task of safe navigation, how can they possibly be up to the task of complex warfighting?

While everyone suddenly seems familiar with these issues – at least enough to vault over process directly to the firing of a vice admiral – the element that has so far eluded discussion is the material condition of these ships. To understand the inexplicable fact that, every day, ships are operating in the most extraordinarily suboptimized ways, several factors need to be understood.

Individual-level training for both officers and enlisted personnel has been gutted. Testing and other performance-related standards were eliminated to improve throughput, reduce attrition, and make seniors happy. Follow-on training such as Communications and Engineer Officer of the Watch Schools were eliminated for new accession officers. B Double E and similar training were reduced for new accession enlisted personnel. As a result, new accessions showed up on ships not ready to be productive. Officer career paths were changed to the detriment of readiness, with long stretches ashore to meet other requirements like postgraduate degrees, joint credit, individual argumentations, Washington-time, etc…. At the same time, we combined executive officer (XO) and commanding officer (CO) training to the detriment of both, and Command Qualification Boards were pushed back for XO tours when officers already had been selected for command. Enlisted journeyman and master-level training (both formal schoolhouse training and informal in jobs such as shore intermediate maintenance activities [SIMAs]) was shredded. Senior officers and enlisted personnel no longer can make up for the shortfalls elsewhere because they increasingly don’t know their jobs either. General military training (GMT) and other similar requirements have exploded to the detriment of shipboard training programs ...


https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2017-08/collisions-part-iii%E2%80%94maintenance

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The navy is talking about the collisions ... this is good ...

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https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2017-08/collisions-part-iii%E2%80%94maintenance
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Very interesting article.

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Very interesting article.
Yes, PCers are scurrying around protecting their asses.

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A rather inspiring article about the collisions ... more like "Let's learn from our mistakes"

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... In the wake of the collisions of the USS Fitzgerald (DDG-62) and USS John S. McCain (DDG-56), commentators have decried the lamentable state of training, readiness, and watchkeeping of the surface force that precipitated these events. Although I have been critical of the Surface Navy’s training for junior officers, we would be well advised not to waste our righteous indignation on “the surface community” and instead use our anger to motivate us to further develop ourselves as professional mariners and naval officers. To mitigate the risk of future mishaps and collisions, junior officer watchstanders—the individuals actually at the conn—must humbly look at their own abilities, rigorously prepare and develop themselves, and proactively train their watch teams to be prepared for any eventuality.

As a recent article articulated , almost anyone who has stood a bridge watch has experienced an uncomfortable, ambiguous situation that could have turned out poorly. Despite this, readers with afloat experience also are likely familiar with the smug “Monday morning quarterbacking” that accompanies wardroom mishap case-study training. Typically, the ship’s navigator will describe the background and timeline leading up to a previous ship’s collision or grounding and invite comment from the officers assembled. Generally, a consensus will arise that so many errors in judgment and so many critically obvious mistakes were made that it is inconceivable that a similar mishap could occur on board USS Squared Away . Similar conversations certainly are happening from afar concerning the Fitzgerald and John S. McCain collisions. We must remember that the officers on those ships likely felt confident about their own abilities and displayed equal incredulity at others who had experienced accidents.

Prudence dictates that, no matter how competent a watch-stander might think him- or herself to be, he or she approach the profession with humility. Lives are on the line every time we operate. No one officer has all the answers—not the hot-running division officer who qualified faster than his peers, not the outstanding department head who was top of her class at Newport, not even the salty commanding officer who has spent the better part of his career at sea. We all make mistakes and are susceptible to implicit biases and failures in perception. At the individual level, we must understand and accept this fact and implement sufficient controls to mitigate our biases and errors.

After having dispassionately assessed one’s own talents and shortfalls, it is critical to work rigorously to improve on personal and watch-team levels. For those who have the privilege to be at sea today, the exigencies of the service may not allow for deliberate contemplation prior to your next watch, but even a conscious commitment to do the simple things right can pay dividends. As officer-of-the-deck, re-commit to memory the procedures for your watchteam in various casualty and emergency situations. Challenge your watch team to talk through or simulate a scenario, conditions permitting, once a watch. To engage your team, use a stop-watch to time how long it takes to complete all the steps involved in responding to an emergency. Keep a log and set realistic goals for improved performance. Upon meeting a goal, treat your watch team to a trip to the ship’s store, then set an even higher bar to work toward. If you notice some rare down time in your ship’s schedule, work with the operations officer to schedule drills to challenge your watch team. If you still are working toward your qualifications, ask questions when things are slow on watch. Memorize and practice executing the steps needed in potential emergencies. Take nothing for granted, and realize that every time you assume the watch you could be called upon to respond to an emergency. Make sure you and your watch team are as ready as can be ...


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Nice clip combining some of the best footage of modern FDF.

Also, some 'merican F-15C fighters from when they were in Finland practicing with Karelia Air Command's F-18C fighters.

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Nice clip combining some of the best footage of modern FDF.

Also, some 'merican F-15C fighters from when they were in Finland practicing with Karelia Air Command's F-18C fighters.


At about the 48 second mark I saw what looks like a fixed coastal gun emplacement being fired. (And it didn't exactly look that old either)
I thought most countries had given up on coastal guns.
Does Finland still have/use those?

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You guys should support the separatist movements in Karelian Republic, and Murmansk Oblast! :mrgreen:

There are significant, oppressed Finnish minorities there aren't there!?

St. Petersburg Subyekty is probably pushing it though . . . Start small. Move at a moderate pace, consolidate your gains and keep going . . .

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