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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:44 pm 
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... everyone except the USA thinks that having the Chinese or Russians move in to the voids is not a problem ...


Believe it or not, the Vietnamese do not think this way. They might be the only ones though.

Hmm...

When I was serving my time in NCO school and during the shooting camp early 1979 China attacked Vietnam. Our officers gave us a pep talk how small nations can cope against greater powers with good training and moral. And then then retired to have some officers refreshments and sauna.

Yeah, I am not so much worried of Russia, but China... :roll:

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India just sent troops to help Bhutan when the Chicoms started building a road on a disputed plateau. They aren't shooting each other yet but they did once before ;)

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:48 pm 
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Good NYT article on the dispute

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/26/worl ... hutan.html

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Japanese, Aussies, US Marines and others exercising in Oz ...

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SHOALWATER BAY TRAINING AREA, Australia — With their faces slathered with camouflage paint and foliage tucked into their helmets, members of one of Japan’s preeminent fighting units sat virtually unseen along a dry river bed made of volcanic rock in eastern Queensland.

The Japan Ground Self-Defense Force’s 1st Airborne Brigade, 3rd Infantry Battalion — taking part in this month’s Talisman Saber drills in Australia for the first time — was tasked last week with protecting the flank for their Australian, American and Canadian allies. The paratroopers sat stoic behind their scopes, motionless and ready for mock enemy forces that could have struck at any time.

“Here in Australia, we are strangers here and the enemies are from other countries, so we don’t know exactly what will happen next,” said company commander Maj. Yohei Hatayama. “Normally, when we have exercises in Japan, we do [some of the same training] so sometimes we expect what will happen or the next situation, but here we have no expectation what will happen.”

The elite unit, which is akin to the U.S. Army’s Rangers, participated in the exercise to hone tactical skills and increase interoperability with their American airborne counterparts, as well as develop deeper relationships with their Australian and Canadian allies, Japanese planners said.


https://www.stripes.com/news/elite-japanese-paratrooper-unit-joins-talisman-saber-drills-for-the-first-time-1.478500#.WYJtMITyu3c

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https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htair ... 70808.aspx

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Air Transportation: Old Gold Worth An Upgrade

August 8, 2017: Britain is upgrading its 38 older CH-47 Chinook transport helicopters to the latest (CH-47F) standard. This will involve replacing the older analog cockpit displays with digital ones and upgrading other electronic systems. Since Britain carries out upgrades like this with British made electronics they use British nomenclature for the different models. The latest American CH-47 is the F model and the British upgrade with change older HC4 models (similar to the American CH-47D/E) to the HC6A (American CH-47F). Britain also refers to the helicopter officially as the Chinook, which is the official nickname for what the Americans call the CH-47. What the U.S. and Britain agree on is that the CH-47 continues to be one of the most useful and reliable transport helicopters available. Since 2001 this has been demonstrated repeatedly in Iraq and Afghanistan where more recent designs proved less effective than a CH-47, even ones that had not been upgraded regularly.

Britain currently operates sixty CH-47s (out of 72 procured over the years.) At the end of 2015 Britain received the last of fourteen CH-47F Chinook helicopters ordered in 2009. Actually Britain wanted to buy another 22 American CH-47Fs back then in order to provide the army with 70 of these transport aircraft. That order was reduced to 14 in 2011 as a result of budget cuts. Because of the long waiting list for Ch-47Fs Britain was initially told it would not receive all 22 until 2017. Because of the reduced order all of them arrived by the end of 2015. These cost nearly $40 million each but Britain now has 60 CH-47s, all equipped slightly differently depending on how long ago they arrived.

In 2009 the original CH-47F order was justified by the fact that Britain was then losing about a hundred troops in Afghanistan each year, most of them because of roadside and suicide bombs. Many of these casualties could be avoided if more helicopters were available. Back in 2009 media reports pointed out that British troops in Afghanistan had one helicopter for every 700 troops while the Americans had one for every 200. British commanders admitted that they needed (based on American experience) about fifty helicopters. The British government promised more, and the order for 22 Chinooks was part of an effort to make it so, at least in the future. Britain has been using CH-47s since 1980 and these have served in the Falkland Islands, Sierra Leone, Iraq and Afghanistan.

The CH-47 is the best helicopter for use in Afghanistan, having proved itself able to deal with the dust and high altitude operations better than other transport choppers. The CH-47 has been engineered, over the years, to deal with the dust. The first CH-47s entered service in 1962, able to carry only five tons. Current models carry more than twice that. Some 750 CH-47s saw service in Vietnam, and 200 were lost in action.

During 1982-94, 500 CH-47s were rebuilt to the CH-47D standard. The new CH-47F is more durable and easier to maintain than the CH-47D, and most D models will be upgraded to the F standard eventually. Right now, everyone still wants more CH-47s (used, refurbs, new, whatever), and there are never enough to go around.



The Chinook is a pretty amazing aircraft....

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The US Army has been and will continue to upgrade these choppers to serve till 2060, giving the Chinook a service life of 100 years.

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While technically this guy is wrong ... we have not been "at war" since the peace treaties after WWII were signed ... but I like most of what he says otherwise ...

https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2017-08/we-have-been-war-long-time

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Actually, there aren't very many words in the above article ... here it is ... for those who couldn't finish it ...

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If your kids or grandkids are 16 years old or younger, they live in a nation that has been at war continuously since they were born.

If you entered the U.S. military in 2001, your branch of service has had some role in the bloody chaos of combat since you left basic training. You probably knew a few of the 6,800 Americans in uniform who have died in war since you began serving.

If you’re an American taxpayer, you have borrowed from the future to run up a war bill estimated at $4.8 trillion. And interest payments on this war debt are estimated to reach a total of $8 trillion by 2050.

If you live in Iraq or Afghanistan, you’ve seen more than 370,000 of your countrymen killed in direct violence and another 800,000 dead from the indirect effects of war since 2001.

If you’re a student of history, you’ve watched the Middle East transform into this century’s biggest threat to global stability.

But if you're the average U.S. citizen, these facts mean little. If you serve in Congress or the White House, they seem to mean even less.

When did we as a nation accept that war is normal? When did we choose to wage endless war in distant countries of no direct threat to the United States?

There is plenty of blame to go around for how we have arrived here: ourselves for sliding into an apathetic stupor on the death of strangers; our politicians for ignoring the Constitution; our elites for allowing the children of others to take the place of their own in defending the United States; the all-volunteer force for severing the tight link between our citizenry and our nation’s defense.

In 1973, we decided to end the draft and rely exclusively on volunteers for our military. This was no big change for Air Force, Navy, or Marine Corps — these services generally have relied on volunteers. But for the Army the change was huge. The Army in the past always had a professional cadre that was augmented by draftees to give it the size and connection to the will of the people needed to fight its wars.

How has our Army done as an all-volunteer force? With the mightiest assemblage of military power in history, it has lost two wars against small bands of ill-equipped irregulars.

The Army’s model of war has four layers. At the bottom, the layer labeled tactics is doing astonishingly well; contributions of the “strategic corporal,” the sergeant, and the fine young officers we have up to field grade are eye-watering.

The layer above, operational art, is empty. We just do not know how to fight in the Middle East, how to take and hold ground, how to put stability in place after winning a battle.

Above that, military strategy meanders from one flavor-of-the-month to the next; there is no coherent strategy for winning. In fact, we do not even have a fixed definition of what winning is.

At the top layer, grand strategy, the province of our Commander in Chief, we see our wars divorced from statecraft and outsourced to the Pentagon.

We need to ask ourselves, how did we get to this sad state? It flows from our panicky reaction to the 9/11 terrorist attacks in the United States. It follows from George W. Bush’s ill-considered war in Iraq. Congress enabled it by essentially authorizing any war anywhere in the Middle East . . . forever.

This situation is made easier because the Army likes having a standing force not dependent on a draft.

And all we red-blooded Americans accept it as patriotism and support for the troops—glad our kids won’t have to go.

This essay—or any essay—will not change things. There is little any individual can do to bring our nation back to balance, to restore our government to its constitutional foundation, and to force our culture to see war as a last resort (not a first choice).

There is one thing within the power of us all, however; get clear in our hearts and minds that this permanent state of war is at its core un-American.

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I found a documentary on Amazon Prime about a group of French pilots that fought in the Soviet Air Force during WW2. They were called the "Normandy Niemen Regiment".
I had never heard of these guys before so it was an interesting watch.

Here is a trailer for it:


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http://www.defensenews.com/video/2017/0 ... o-at-oa-x/

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Video: A-29 Embraer Super Tucano demo at OA-X

Holloman Air Force Base is hosting the OA-X demonstration of light attack aircraft. One contender is the A-29 Embraer Super Tucano. The OA-X experiment looks to find cheaper off-the-shelf alternatives to operating jets against low-tech threats.


Video at above link

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