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Re: Trump, Trump, Trump

#2631 Post by chijohnaok » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:08 pm

What a bunch of loons this church is.

Baby Trayvon?

Poor comparison...the Baby Jesus wasn’t on top of one of the Wise Men slamming his skull into the ground.
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Re: Trump, Trump, Trump

#2632 Post by nero » Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:48 am

WTF.
ROBERTA RAMPTONTwitter wrote: Image

Trump To Meet Russia's Lavrov At White House Tuesday

December 9, 20198:22 PM ET
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    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov will meet with President Trump at the White House on Tuesday.
When Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov last visited the White House, President Trump had just fired his then-FBI director, James Comey. At the time, Trump bragged it would remove pressure related to an investigation into whether his campaign had ties to Moscow. But instead, it had the opposite effect, fanning the political flames over his Russia policy.

Two-and-a-half years later, Lavrov is set to return on Tuesday, and Trump's Russia policy is still very much in the spotlight.

There were no immediate details on what Trump plans to discuss with Lavrov, who is in Washington to meet with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. A senior U.S. official said the talks would be about "the state of the bilateral relationship."

Trump's critics have said he has been too friendly with Moscow, given how Russia has worked at cross-purposes with the United States, interfering with the presidential election in 2016, annexing part of Ukraine, and backing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro.

Trump has said he wants to work with Russia on curbing North Korea's nuclear ambitions — as well as a broader nuclear non-proliferation deal.

Lavrov's visit coincides with Paris talks between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy meant to resolve the simmering war in eastern Ukraine.

But it also comes as Trump faces a House impeachment inquiry into a hold he placed on military aid for Ukraine, and whether he made releasing the aid and hosting Zelensky for an Oval Office meeting with Zelenskiy contingent on Ukraine announcing an investigation into his political rivals.

The Lavrov meeting also coincides with the release of a report by the Justice Department's inspector general report on the FBI's Russia probe. That report criticized the bureau over its surveillance of a former adviser to the Trump campaign. Trump and his supporters said it was evidence of a plot against him.

Last week at a NATO leaders' summit in London, Trump said he had been talking to Putin about "a treaty of some kind on nuclear weapons that will probably then include China at some point."
Obviously Putin needs Trump's help to force Zelenskiy to give Russia what Putin wants. For that no oval office meeting and a threat to cut the military aid would probably force Zelenskiy to make unpopular concession. Talk about being between rock and a hard place; Putin&Trump and the Ukrainian people. :twisted:

And why this? To lift the economic sanctions on Russia. And the UkraineGate is much more about sticking the blame of the 2016 election interference on Ukraine than dirt on Biden(s). Why this? Simply to fulfill the main goal of Putin's foreign policy: to get rid of the economic sanctions that cripple the Russian economy.

Already Trump has been helpful by lifting sanctions on Putin's favorite oligarch Oleg Deripaska's Rusal. doing that he tied also Moscow Mitch McConnel the the deal.

Then there would only the Magnitsky Act to revoke. And Putin can silence Bill Browder with best possible style (Polonium, Novichok, ...).

Trump talks a lot about treason. Perhaps he knows more about that? :roll:

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Re: Trump, Trump, Trump

#2633 Post by Anthropoid » Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:14 am

They had to sleep in a fucking manger! THAT was the iron age equivalent of a detention center!

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Re: Trump, Trump, Trump

#2634 Post by jack t ripper » Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:39 am

Joseph was going to pay his taxes. :) That hardly seems the motivation of the Honduras economic migrants.

Sleeping in a manger was hardly Joseph's biggest problem. His wife was pregnant and somehow he was not the father.
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Re: Trump, Trump, Trump

#2635 Post by jack t ripper » Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:42 am

Trump was right. The UN is warning the US we are going to owe big on "climate reparations" :lol: Oh yeah? Let's see you come and take it.

Why, in the name of Thomas Jefferson, would a representative of the American people sign such a piece of shit agreement?
U.N. Warns U.S. It Cannot Escape Paying Punitive Climate ‘Reparations’
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A demonstrator with a gas mask attends a climate protest rally in Sydney on December 11, 2019. - Up to 20,000 protesters rallied in Sydney on December 11 demanding urgent climate action from Australia's government, as bushfire smoke choking the city caused health problems to spike. (Photo by Saeed KHAN …SAEED KHAN/AFP via Getty
SIMON KENT11 Dec 201929
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The United States was warned Wednesday by the United Nations it cannot avoid compensating poorer nations hit by climate change, despite Donald Trump honoring his election promise of leaving the 2015 Paris climate agreement.

Delegates and observers at the COP25 negotiations in Madrid told AFP that Washington seeks a change to the U.N. climate convention that could release it from punitive “loss and damage” funding for developing nations which is predicted to run into the billions of dollars.




Under the bedrock U.N. climate treaty, adopted in 1992, rich nations agreed to help developing countries prepare for unavoidable future climate impacts — the twin pillars of “mitigation” and “adaptation”.

But there was no provision for helping countries and small island states now calling for compensation.

A new mechanism was established in 2013, but with damage estimates climbing, there is no agreement on where the money might come from or even if it should be paid, although the U.S. is constantly the target of calls for financial reparations because it is rich, successful and a dominant world economic force.

One of the tasks facing delegates in Madrid is reviewing the framework for how countries might pay and account for this money.



A document said to be circulated by U.S. negotiators to delegation heads, seen by AFP, proposes to transpose a key provision under the 2015 Paris agreement — from which the United States is withdrawing — and apply it to the wider COP process, where the U.S. will maintain a seat at the table.

Matt Perdie
As Breitbart News reported, the financial impositions being considered include U.N.-administered taxes on financial transactions, international air travel and fossil fuels.

In an open letter to the president of the COP 25 talks, Chile’s environment minister Carolina Schmidt, the organisations urged agreement on “the creation of a comprehensive financing facility, including debt relief, for developing countries experiencing such disasters.”



Green groups have claimed the increased pace and intensity of climate disasters, such as the twin cyclones that devastated parts of Mozambique this year, means that funding needs boosting to keep track.

They said the amount needed for loss and damage would top $300 billion annually by 2030, of which the majority of which is expected to be invoiced to the U.S.

As Breitbart News reported, as far back as June, 2017 Trump said he was looking forward to exiting the agreement.

The president spoke then of following through on his commitments to the American people.

“In order to fulfill my solemn duty to protect America and its citizens, the United States will withdraw from the Paris Climate Accord,” Trump declared.

Compliance with the accord could have cost the U.S. “as much as 2.7 million lost jobs by 2025 according to the National Economic Research Associates,” said Trump. “This includes 440,000 fewer manufacturing jobs — not what we need…”

The Paris Climate Accord will form the basis for any future reparations as decided at COP 25. Almost 25,000 people and 1500 journalists are in Madrid to attend the meeting.

AFP contributed to this report
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Re: Trump, Trump, Trump

#2636 Post by C_S » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:05 pm

Sleeping in a manger was hardly Joseph's biggest problem. His wife was pregnant and somehow he was not the father.

U been on a roll! lot's of good posts, doctor. :lol:
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Re: Trump, Trump, Trump

#2637 Post by mdiehl » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:12 pm

Yes he was. It's amazing how stupid democratic moderates can be. I must know a dozen people who think the Paris accord was going to solve the CO2 problem and not be a burden on most Americans. But you can't get them to actually read the text of the thing. It's true the language is excessively bureaucratic, but if you doggedly pursue the phrase "finance instrument" far enough you discover that it means "America must pay."
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Re: Trump, Trump, Trump

#2638 Post by mdiehl » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:13 pm

The thing I dislike about Trump is that he says the US will withdraw. That's poor word choice. The US was never IN the Paris Accord. Obama may have appended his signature, but it was never ratified by the US Senate. Therefore it never had any force vis a vis the United States.

Trump should have said "It was not ratified by the US Senate, the US is not a part of it, and effective immediately we will not participate in plans or actions taken under its auspices."
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Re: Trump, Trump, Trump

#2639 Post by jack t ripper » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:31 pm

Green groups have claimed the increased pace and intensity of climate disasters, such as the twin cyclones that devastated parts of Mozambique this year, means that funding needs boosting to keep track.

They said the amount needed for loss and damage would top $300 billion annually by 2030, of which the majority of which is expected to be invoiced to the U.S.
Oh yeah? How do you say Phuc Yoo in Mozambique?
As Breitbart News reported, the financial impositions being considered include U.N.-administered taxes on financial transactions, international air travel and fossil fuels.
What a nightmare. UN taxes? We might come out ahead if we collected all the parking tickets on UN diplomats. Absolute idiocy. About 1% of UN taxes would trickle down to shithole countries. There would magically be a 99% overhead.
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Re: Trump, Trump, Trump

#2640 Post by jack t ripper » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:33 pm

mdiehl wrote:The thing I dislike about Trump is that he says the US will withdraw. That's poor word choice. The US was never IN the Paris Accord. Obama may have appended his signature, but it was never ratified by the US Senate. Therefore it never had any force vis a vis the United States.

Trump should have said "It was not ratified by the US Senate, the US is not a part of it, and effective immediately we will not participate in plans or actions taken under its auspices."
It was purposely NOT called a treaty because Hussein knew there was not a chance it would be ratified by the Senate.
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