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 Post subject: Re: Trump, Trump, Trump
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:54 am 
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I suspect that a knowledge of how the US is constantly fucking with other countries politics would be enough to dissuade me from any pointless posturing for the cameras. Both he and Putin know the truth of it..... this is a game that gets played by many governments.

His answers to questions were stupid... no doubt about that... He does have a very hawkish component to his base that he needs to keep happy.... And of course he handed his enemies enough BS to hurt him in November.... but that's Trump.... you wish you could love the guy... but you can't.... so you take the good with the bad....

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 Post subject: Re: Trump, Trump, Trump
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:56 am 
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On NPR they were having a cackle fest. I think they all think they have Trump now.

Nancy Pelosi publicly alleging Trump is being blackmailed??? WTF? She is a dried out, anachronistic cunt who had her G-5 government jet taken away from her when her party lost the majority in the House.

Trump defeated ISIS in Syria and made 150 Russian mercenaries martyrs of Mother Russia in one day in Syria...and he sent anti-tank missiles to Ukraine which is something The Magic Negro never had the balls to do.

Most of the old farts having soiling accidents over Putin thought Reagan was 5 minutes away from nuclear war and Gorby was a gift to the planet.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump, Trump, Trump
PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:01 am 
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Gump wrote:
I suspect that a knowledge of how the US is constantly fucking with other countries politics would be enough to dissuade me from any pointless posturing for the cameras. His answers to questions were stupid... no doubt about that... He does have a very hawkish component to his base that he needs to keep happy.... And of course he handed his enemies enough BS to hurt him in November.... but that's Trump.... you wish you could love the guy... but you can't.... so you take the good with the bad....


He can be hawkish of the PRK. He should not have been questioning his intelligence advisors in front of Putin. That was awkward. Even so, I doubt 1% of Americans give a shit about Ukraine. ;)

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Nixon was a staunch anti-communist. It was his whole political gimmick. Where did he go? China. Is the world better for Nixon's visit? Yes.


No, it is not a better world because of China.

Absolutely fucking not.

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Nixon was a staunch anti-communist. It was his whole political gimmick. Where did he go? China. Is the world better for Nixon's visit? Yes.


No, it is not a better world because of China.

Absolutely fucking not.


Now, hold on. China wasn't going away. So which is worse ...human wave attack after the bugle sounds China...or semi-capitalist China? Granted neither path was completely satisfactory. I also agree with you that China is a bigger long term threat than Russia.

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Not to mention all those $8 shirts and $500 big screen TVs that have boosted the US standard of living way beyond where it would have been without China slave labor....

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And the 99 cent Christmas lights!

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 Post subject: Re: Trump, Trump, Trump
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It may sound trivial, but if you tallyed all the consumer goods you've bought in the last few years and compared that to what those things would have cost without cheap Chinese labor, the amount would likely stagger you.

That economic benefit went right to the average citizen's bottom line.... you can hate on China all you want, but this idea that they would somehow have gone away without our trade is simply stupid. The rest of the world who did open their markets to China would simply have taken strides ahead of us. And our domestically produced goods would have been sold to nobody but captive US citizens.

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Trump says he misspoke on Russian meddling during press conference, accepts US intel findings


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/17/trump-says-misspoke-on-russian-meddling-during-press-conference-accepts-us-intel-findings.html

Misspoke...?


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Trump says he misspoke on Russian meddling during press conference, accepts US intel findings


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/17/trump-says-misspoke-on-russian-meddling-during-press-conference-accepts-us-intel-findings.html

Misspoke...?

Perhaps also misunderestimated his handler, Vova Putin. Or then it was just agreed. :roll:

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