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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:17 pm 
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Awww.. Nero has to go digging up an old Clintonista to put forth some far-fetched Trump conspiracy. :lol:

This Muh Russia shit is comical. You loons have lost it. The only Russian connection found has been the one linking the DNC & Clintons through FusionGPS, Steele, and his Russian Intel buddies.

Meanwhile, the Clinton Foundation is gonna get it's poop hole widened, and a bunch of dirty shit will fall out if they can't burn enough of it in time.

Prepare for yet more disappointment, Nero! ;)


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PS. What would Bannon say? ... Oh, never mind. Javanka agrees. :roll:

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:05 am 
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Putin can not destroy the West, but he can destabilize the Western democracy.


Trump has been in office for less than 1year.
Ripper already listed all the things that Trump has done which work AGAINST the Russian’s interest.

Now let’s look at what Merkel and other leaders in Europe have done to destabilize Western democracy:
——let millions of undocumented/unscreened 3rd worlders in who are not fans of Western ideals and who are so uneducated and without employment skill set they will forever be a burden on the Euro country they are in
—-let thousands of jihadists into their countries, who have already conducted attacks on a regular basis against European citizens. AND to add insult to injury are allowing the return of their own jihadist citizens that left their Euro country to fight for the ISIS Caliphate and who are now returning to their prior European homes
—-have so let their militaries deteriorate to the point that some national air forces fly only during business hours; would be hard pressed to resist a foreign invasion, and are unable to make a meaningful contribution when they have sent forces overseas (Afghanistan, Libya, etc)

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"Days without Jewing" WTF???

Nemo, did you break into the absinthe again? You claim to be joking but nobody gets your "jokes" and nobody understands your "satire". You are swerving into "village idiot" territory. No offense.

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Seems like nero thinks Trump is now a jewish puppet rather than a Russian one.

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Here is a disastrously glaring flaw with the FSB secret puppet "theory".

It would be a Hell of a story but if the Russians had such a blackmailing opportunity.....they would not release damaging misinformation about that candidate to Fusion GPS and the opposition party BECAUSE THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT IS TO GET THE GUY ELECTED AND USE THE LEVERAGE WHEN HE HAS SOME ACTUAL POWER!

To believe such idiocy one has to ignore mountains of contradictory and much more natural evidence and reasoning that could not have been assembled by the Russians if every guy in the FSB were Boris Spassky's smarter brother.

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"Days without Jewing" WTF???

Nemo, did you break into the absinthe again? You claim to be joking but nobody gets your "jokes" and nobody understands your "satire". You are swerving into "village idiot" territory. No offense.


Apparently Nero turns into an anti-semite when he's drinking & trolling.

Friends don't let friends drink & troll.

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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... psychiatry


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President Trump and the Dangers of Armchair Psychiatry

by MARC SIEGEL January 11, 2018 4:00 AM

Medical professionals should stop attempting to diagnose the mental health of politicians from afar.

Back in 2006, when George W. Bush was still president, Duke University Medical Center professor of psychiatry Dr. Jonathan Davidson published a study that reviewed biographical sources for the first 37 presidents (from 1776 to 1974), and expert psychiatrists concluded that half suffered from mental illness, 27 percent while still in office. Twenty-four percent met the diagnostic criteria for depression at some point in their lives, including most famously Abraham Lincoln and Calvin Coolidge. Richard Nixon was treated for many years for stress by psychiatrist Dr. Arnold Hutschnecker, and was severely depressed after leaving office. The psychiatrist who treated Nixon after Watergate has confirmed this to me. “Who wouldn’t be?” he said.

The key to all these cases was either a physician making an in-person assessment and coming up with a diagnostic impression and treatment plan or at least the president or those close to him recognizing the problem. What makes the current pundit-media attack on President Trump’s mental health most disturbing is that those leading the charge are either non-psychiatrists, or else have never examined the president, such as psychiatrist Dr. Bandy Lee of Yale, who traveled to Washington last month to brief twelve Democratic and one Republican lawmakers on President Trump’s supposed mental instability.

Dr. Lee’s claims come across as partisan meanness, and they undermine the integrity of the medical profession at a time when we are already spending too little actual face time with our patients. Philadelphia psychiatrist Dr. Claire Pouncey, writing in the prestigious New England Journal of Medicine, supported the actions of Dr. Lee, along with the book of essays she published, The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump. But Dr. Jeffrey Lieberman, chairman of the Department of Psychiatry at Columbia University, writing a response in the New England Journal of Medicine, called Pouncey and Lee’s actions “a misguided and dangerous morality.”

On Tuesday, the American Psychiatric Association reaffirmed its adherence to the so-called Goldwater Rule, which stipulates that member psychiatrists should not publicly discuss the mental health of a public figure, leader, or candidate. This rule is wise, protects our integrity as physicians, and continues to apply here.

And yet the ridiculing of the president goes on, as every Trump statement and tweet is put under a microscope. The president’s upcoming physical with White House physician Rear Admiral Dr. Ronny Jackson this week is not likely to quiet the critics, since Jackson is an emergency-medicine specialist and not a psychiatrist and, in any case, is not likely to perform a complete mental-status examination. Of course, if Admiral Jackson thought one were necessary, he would.

If half of all presidents have suffered from mental illness, the question is what degree of mental illness would constitute sufficient concern to consider the president unfit to perform his duties. One answer is if he were suffering from severe or suicidal depression, which the president does not in any way appear to be suffering from, though — again — I have not examined him, and I am not a psychiatrist. Another true concern would be psychosis, which is defined by the National Institute of Mental Health as follows:

During a period of psychosis, a person’s thoughts and perceptions are disturbed and the individual may have difficulty understanding what is real and what is not. Symptoms of psychosis include delusions (false beliefs), and hallucinations (Seeing or hearing things that others do not see or hear). Other symptoms include incoherent or nonsense speech, and behavior that is inappropriate for the situation.

Though President Trump clearly has millions of enemies and detractors, many who have a personal animus towards him and would do anything to get him out of office, there is simply no evidence whatsoever that the staff and officials who work with him on a daily basis have noticed anything that is anywhere close to the bizarre and out-of-place behavior of psychosis.

What is closer to psychotic is the constant invocation of Section 4 of the 25th Amendment to the Constitution by Trump’s enemies. Consider the relevant language:

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Isn’t it delusional for Trump’s enemies to ignore the facts that 1) the vice president or the president’s appointed cabinet or a Republican-controlled Congress would never go along with such a coup d’état and 2) none of them have expressed any concerns whatsoever about President Trump being “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office”?

It is certainly possible to disagree with or even loathe someone or their point of view without calling them crazy. By using mental health as a way to denigrate or diminish someone (especially a political leader), we are doing people with actual mental-health problems a real disservice. We need to stop doing this in order to return as a society to a crucial level of civility.


Some very good points raised in this article and (IMHO) most important to consider:

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On Tuesday, the American Psychiatric Association reaffirmed its adherence to the so-called Goldwater Rule, which stipulates that member psychiatrists should not publicly discuss the mental health of a public figure, leader, or candidate. This rule is wise, protects our integrity as physicians, and continues to apply here.



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Section 7, which appeared in the first edition of the APA's Principles of Medical Ethics in 1973 and is still in effect as of 2017,[8] says:

On occasion psychiatrists are asked for an opinion about an individual who is in the light of public attention or who has disclosed information about himself/herself through public media. In such circumstances, a psychiatrist may share with the public his or her expertise about psychiatric issues in general. However, it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater ... escription

This has been in place for over 40 years, but suddenly a small group of medical "professionals" think it a good time to forget about it.

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n the fall of 2017, the American Medical Association's Council on Ethical and Judicial Affairs wrote new guidelines into the AMA Code of Medical Ethics, stating that physicians should refrain “from making clinical diagnoses about individuals (e.g., public officials, celebrities, persons in the news) they have not had the opportunity to personally examine.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater ... ssociation


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Despite the 40+ years of precedence of the Goldwater Rule, and the reinforcement of 2 major medical organizations of the GR, SHE knows better. :roll:

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Yes, this is the same specialty which labeled homosexuality a psychiatric illness for 100 years...and..whose most needy patients you will commonly see pushing a shopping cart in 90 degree weather with 3 jackets on....while they sit in an air-conditioned office in Newport Beach, charging $350 for a 30 minute visit for a 40 year old woman with puffy duck lips from collagen injections who is depressed because her 65 year old billionaire husband is seeing a 25 year old with fantastic pointy tits.

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Yes, this is the same specialty which labeled homosexuality a psychiatric illness for 100 years...and..whose most needy patients you will commonly see pushing a shopping cart in 90 degree weather with 3 jackets on....while they sit in an air-conditioned office in Newport Beach, charging $350 for a 30 minute visit for a 40 year old woman with puffy duck lips from collagen injections who is depressed because her 65 year old billionaire husband is seeing a 25 year old with fantastic pointy tits.



:lol:

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