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 Post subject: Grim Parallels?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:39 pm 
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NEWTON, Iowa — Donald J. Trump, who earlier in the week said he was open to requiring Muslims in the United States to register in a database, said on Thursday night that he “would certainly implement that — absolutely.”

Mr. Trump was asked about the issue by an NBC News reporter and pressed on whether all Muslims in the country would be forced to register. “They have to be,” he said. “They have to be.’’


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This is beyond scary.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 3:01 pm 
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This is beyond scary.


No, it's not. Actually, it's beyond melodramatic. A story posted a year ago when Trump was one of many candidates throwing red meat to anyone with an agenda.

Is this as offensive, less offensive, or more offensive, than the white professor, a darling of the radical progressives, who claimed that all white males should kill themselves (thereby painting targets on the back of white men)? Of course, he failed to lead the way, and stated later that he was just trying to stir shit up.

I've been over to Mother Jones lately to get their take on it. You may have heard of Mother Jones... famously NOT reactionary demagogues. Here are some facts that they noted in the last three days. Trump carried a lower proportion of the white vote than Romney. A greater proportion of the black and latino vote than Romney. He flipped white working class voters in six rust belt states, which said white working class voters voted for Obama in the two previous elections.

I saw today a fine bit of hate mail directed at white men. It was a cartoon on a "guide on how to confront hate speech" and of course it depicted a white man, scruffy, in blue jeans, with Angry Face and Anger Speech Lines (tm) directed at a woman in a hijab on a subway car. Yeah. That will heal America. Just keep trotting out all that bullshit demonization of white men, rather than analyze what the fuck just happened based on things like, say, economics. Surely if the radical left keeps up with that line of talk, white men will magically realize that they ARE in fact demons and spontaneously transubstantiate and disperse back to hell. NOT.

For my part, I'm still the guy that elite lefties hate. An armed white male who does not agree that he is particularly privileged and does not consent to be their whipping post. And if in fact someone like Donald Trump tries to enforce some kind of "moslem registry" I'll react to it the same way I reacted to proposals of a "firearms owners registry" -- which is to proudly proclaim a hearty FUCK YOU to totalitarians of ANY kind.

I'm still pro-choice across the board. That means it's none of the government's business whom people choose to consensually fuck, marry, cohabitate with, associate, whether they have abortions or use birth control, own computers with which they may engage in "offensive" or for that matter "pleasant" speech, or own firearms.

We're not tottering on the edge of a fascist state no matter how hysterically pc-victim-identity-movement-drama-queens may proclaim, and I and legions of other white males who also happen to own firearms are not going to cooperate if anyone seriously tries to impose that sort of autocratic agenda.

For pete's sake, America, get a grip!

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It's a Trump is LITERALLY HITLER thread.

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That was a deliberate trip-up question purposely designed to evoke the Third Reich. Completely chickenshit.


There is not going to be a "registration program" for muslim citizens of the US. That is complete paranoia. That would last about 3 minutes before a successful legal challenge.

"Registration" for muslims on visas? Damn right there is. That is the whole point of a visa.

Mosque surveilance program? There probably SHOULD be such a thing. Of course, you need to have probable cause identifying a specific mosque for increased concern.

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Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
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Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
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Somebody get Gary a pill...

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Somebody get Gary a pill...


I hope I am just being paranoid. And JR may be right that such a bill would meet enough opposition in other parts of the legislature that would stop it. However, that doesn't detract from the fact that Trump said it and the people who are going to stop that kind of legislature are the people who speak up against it. Not the people who pass it off as "we'll it'll never happen so I'm not going to worry about it."

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"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."



Then they came for the terrorists islams, and I did not speak out-

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Anything you see on TV or read in the next 2 months should be pretty obviously dismissed as salty arrows.... Give the guy a chance... as Mdiehl said, there are plenty of rational people in the world that won't allow him to do anything even remotely scary... He's been hired to do a specific job...If he doesn't do it there's rope with his name on it.... don't think he doesn't know that....

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Garistotle laments the fate of Islams. Meanwhile

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