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 Post subject: Re: Yo, Kaepernick, did I mention you are a shitty QB too?
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Take comfort Kaepernick and the players of the NFL......

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the Bundesliga team Hertha Berlin is with you!

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/14/spor ... tests.html

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Look!

The virtue signalling olympics are in full swing!

Although I think it's only North America and Europe attempting to seriously participate in this most ridiculous contest. The vast majority of the rest think they're being fucking retarded morons, or attempt to profit from that fact.

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Colin Kaepernick is entitled to his opinion.
Nate Boyer is entitled to his opinion.

What the NFL does to its employees during their work time is up to the NFL.

And just as well, NFL fans are of course also entitled to their opinions; to whether they purchase NFL game tickets and merchandise.

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http://start.att.net/news/read/article/ ... ging_co-ap

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Kaepernick Files Grievance Against NFL, Alleging Collusion
11 Hours Ago The Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) — Former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick filed a grievance against the NFL on Sunday, alleging that he remains unsigned as a result of collusion by owners following his protests during the national anthem.

Kaepernick started a national conversation about political activism by athletes last season when he decided to sit, and then kneel, during the anthem to bring attention to mistreatment of African-Americans by police. Other players have continued the protests this season, prompting an angry response from President Donald Trump, who said players should be fired for not standing during the anthem.

Kaepernick opted out of his contract with the 49ers at the end of last season and remains a free agent despite a rash of injuries and poor play at the quarterback position.

Mark Geragos, one of Kaepernick's attorneys, said in a statement posted on Twitter on Sunday that he filed the grievance "only after pursuing every possible avenue with all NFL teams and their executives."

"If the NFL (as well as all professional sports leagues) is to remain a meritocracy, then principled and peaceful political protest — which the owners themselves made great theater imitating weeks ago — should not be punished," Geragos said in the statement, "and athletes should not be denied employment based on partisan political provocation by the executive branch of our government. Such a precedent threatens all patriotic Americans and harkens back to our darkest days as a nation."

San Francisco safety Eric Reid, Kaepernick's former teammate, has been kneeling during the anthem before games, including Sunday's 26-24 loss at the Washington Redskins.

"I'll have to follow up with him," Reid said after the game. "It sure does seem like he's being blackballed. I think all the stats prove that he's an NFL-worthy quarterback. So that's his choice and I support his decision. We'll just have to see what comes of it."

The NFL players' union said it would support the grievance, which was filed through the arbitration system that's part of the league's collective bargaining agreement.

"Colin Kaepernick's goal has always been, and remains, to simply be treated fairly by the league he performed at the highest level for and to return to the football playing field," Geragos said.



I'm not sure what he wants to accomplish out of this.

IF his attorney can prove collusion, then he might be able to wangle some sort of damages award out of it.
But at the end of the day, no lawsuit, no arbitration can actually FORCE an NFL team to sign him or play him.

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http://start.att.net/news/read/article/the_associated_press-kaepernick_files_grievance_against_nfl_alleging_co-ap

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Kaepernick Files Grievance Against NFL, Alleging Collusion
11 Hours Ago The Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) — Former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick filed a grievance against the NFL on Sunday, alleging that he remains unsigned as a result of collusion by owners following his protests during the national anthem.

Kaepernick started a national conversation about political activism by athletes last season when he decided to sit, and then kneel, during the anthem to bring attention to mistreatment of African-Americans by police. Other players have continued the protests this season, prompting an angry response from President Donald Trump, who said players should be fired for not standing during the anthem.

Kaepernick opted out of his contract with the 49ers at the end of last season and remains a free agent despite a rash of injuries and poor play at the quarterback position.

Mark Geragos, one of Kaepernick's attorneys, said in a statement posted on Twitter on Sunday that he filed the grievance "only after pursuing every possible avenue with all NFL teams and their executives."

"If the NFL (as well as all professional sports leagues) is to remain a meritocracy, then principled and peaceful political protest — which the owners themselves made great theater imitating weeks ago — should not be punished," Geragos said in the statement, "and athletes should not be denied employment based on partisan political provocation by the executive branch of our government. Such a precedent threatens all patriotic Americans and harkens back to our darkest days as a nation."

San Francisco safety Eric Reid, Kaepernick's former teammate, has been kneeling during the anthem before games, including Sunday's 26-24 loss at the Washington Redskins.

"I'll have to follow up with him," Reid said after the game. "It sure does seem like he's being blackballed. I think all the stats prove that he's an NFL-worthy quarterback. So that's his choice and I support his decision. We'll just have to see what comes of it."

The NFL players' union said it would support the grievance, which was filed through the arbitration system that's part of the league's collective bargaining agreement.

"Colin Kaepernick's goal has always been, and remains, to simply be treated fairly by the league he performed at the highest level for and to return to the football playing field," Geragos said.



I'm not sure what he wants to accomplish out of this.

IF his attorney can prove collusion, then he might be able to wangle some sort of damages award out of it.
But at the end of the day, no lawsuit, no arbitration can actually FORCE an NFL team to sign him or play him.



Got$a get paid.™

We all knew he'd start playing the victim card for the results of his own actions.

If he were a great QB, he'd still have a job.

Of course, quitting his contract with the 49'ers means he thought he could wrangle more contract money out of someone else, as a free agent, despite his numerous problems. If you gamble, know that you can lose. He's not the first free agent to fail in just such an attempt.

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 Post subject: Re: Yo, Kaepernick, did I mention you are a shitty QB too?
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Can't see where he has much of a case when the teams are still employing other players who take a knee.

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Let's review:

-Mixed race conception
-Black father takes off..adios MF
-White mother does the hard part, gives birth, gives him up for adoption
-White family takes care of him, helps pay for his education
-Gets in to fancy university, possibly because of his sotry
-Plays football, gets drafted by the NF
-Gains fame, makes literally millions and millions, more than his father could in 50 lifetimes
-Decides he is black
-Gets false information about the Gentle Giant, who is actually a thug who tried to murder a police officer
-Does his stupid ass protest even though law enforcement is largely a local government affair
-Has a shitty year
-Loses his contract and nobody needs a 2nd or 3rd string malcontent asshole as QB


-Hires a lawyer and becomes a whiney pussy

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By ra way, the Players Union contract has specific language about owner collusion so if he can show one email between owners saying "don't hire the stupid bastard" he might well prevail although he might have to show it was a team he was negotiating with...not sure about that.

So, even though he is a stupid tool that has been manipulated by others and an owner with any sense would not hire him out of their own self-interest, he might still win his case. Such is the nature of the unlevel playing field of business/labor law. The days of hriing the Pinkertons to shoot some of the union guys working in a dangerous steel mill are over.

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Let's review:

-Mixed race conception
-Black father takes off..adios MF
-White mother does the hard part, gives birth, gives him up for adoption
-White family takes care of him, helps pay for his education
-Gets in to fancy university, possibly because of his sotry
-Plays football, gets drafted by the NF
-Gains fame, makes literally millions and millions, more than his father could in 50 lifetimes
-Decides he is black
-Gets false information about the Gentle Giant, who is actually a thug who tried to murder a police officer
-Does his stupid ass protest even though law enforcement is largely a local government affair
-Has a shitty year
-Loses his contract and nobody needs a 2nd or 3rd string malcontent asshole as QB


-Hires a lawyer and becomes a whiney pussy



That covers it quite well.

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‘Monday Night Football’ Ratings Fall To Season Low As Titans Break Colts’ Streak

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CBS earnings to disappoint due to weak NFL ratings, Credit Suisse says
Credit Suisse cut its third-quarter EPS estimates on CBS by 5 percent, citing the company's softer Sunday NFL ratings.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/16/cbs-ear ... -says.html

https://townhall.com/columnists/thomasj ... g-n2395496

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Roger Goodell Killed the Goose that Laid the Golden Egg

Thomas J. Farnan Thomas J. Farnan |Posted: Oct 16, 2017 12:01 AM

Y.A. Tittle died last week. A Hall of Fame quarterback for the New York Giants, he is best known for the taking a knee on a football field. Actually, it was two knees.

In September 1964, the Giants were facing the Pittsburgh Steelers at old Pitt Stadium. Tittle was 38 years old and at the tail end of a 17-year professional career. He had led his team to three straight NFL Championship Games, in ’61, ’62, and ’63, but did not win.

In the game against the Steelers, he dropped back into his own end zone to throw a pass. He was viciously knocked to the ground and his helmet flew off. The pass was intercepted for a touchdown.

He struggled to his knees and stared blankly into the open field, bleeding from his head. The other players backed off and left him to himself. At that moment, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette photographer Morris Berman snapped a picture.

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It is among the greatest sports photographs ever taken. There is Muhammad Ali standing over Sonny Liston and Ben Hogan with his one iron at Merion’s final hole. But those are about achievement and victory. This is about the struggle to rise after being knocked down.

People watch the NFL to revel in such mythology. A game where redemption is purchased at a great physical cost serves as an allegory for the common man.

In the 1960s, American culture was fracturing along a fault line, with the common man on one side and scorn against his mores and values on the other. The league’s commissioner at the time, Pete Rozelle, chose to take the side of ordinary Americans in the raging culture war, because they were his natural audience. The league sent star players to visit troops in Vietnam and issued rules requiring players to stand upright during the playing of the National Anthem.

In 1967, the NFL produced a film that combined sideline and game footage titled, “They Call It Pro Football.” The film was unapologetically hokey. It was crew cuts and high tops and lots of chain smoking into sideline telephones. With a non-rock, non-folk, non-“what’s happening now” soundtrack, heavy on trumpets and kettle drums. John Facenda, who would come to be called “The Voice of God” for his work with NFL Films, provided the vaulting narration. The production began with the words, “It starts with a whistle and ends with a gun.” There was nothing Radical Chic about it.

The NFL surpassed baseball as America’s pastime with careful branding that conformed to the tastes and sensibilities of middle-class Americans – Nixon’s silent majority. A half century later, Roger Goodell would kill the goose that laid the golden egg.

In August 2016, America was experiencing a polarizing presidential election. San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick sat during the playing of the national anthem, to protest injustice. It was a politically divisive act directed at fans who regard the national anthem as something sacred. The league did not lift a finger to stop him.

Most employers don’t let their workers make controversial political statements to their customers. It is why you do not know your UPS driver’s views on the expansion of NATO. The Constitution does not prohibit private businesses from regulating speech during work.


A savvier commissioner would have reminded Kaepernick that he is being paid millions to wear the logo of the NFL, and the league does not permit players to use its brand to flaunt their personal politics. Instead, Roger Goodell permitted the pregame ceremonies to become the focus of intense political scrutiny, as the media lined up to catalog whether players stood, sat or knelt during the national anthem.

He knew, no doubt, that protesting the national anthem would be offensive to some people. With Hillary Clinton’s inevitable triumph looming, it was generally considered okay to offend those people. They would be described by Hillary Clinton a few days after Kaepernick’s protest as a basket of deplorables. The NFL was just pandering to the prevailing sentiment when it green lighted Kaepernick’s cause. Then Trump won.

The rule before Trump was that half the country had to endure any scold, put up with all name calling, and generally be treated like idiots by popular culture. The brilliant lights who made the rules never considered that scolding half the country may, in itself, have been divisive. And that people have been stewing about it for years.


When the 2017 seasons started, President Trump railed at the NFL for permitting the protests. Rather than back down, the NFL doubled down, employing the double speak of the cornered weakling. Try to imagine John Facenda speaking the words, “The NFL and our players are at our best when we help create a sense of unity in our country and our culture” – you can’t.

Television ratings have tanked. By permitting its games to become a forum for liberal politics, the NFL broke faith with its fan base.

Y.A. Tittle quit football after kneeling in the end zone and sold insurance. He hung Berman’s photograph in his office with the caption, “Nothing Comes Easy.” Last week, his death coincided with the end the NFL mythology he represented. The league is no longer a fanfare for the common man, an allegory about the struggle to get up after being knocked down.

It is easy to drop to one knee in a deliberate pose to protest something. Rising from two knees after spending yourself in a physical battle, that’s not so easy. It is why people watched, Roger.


This article was the first time that I had ever seen that YA Tittle photo.
They say a picture is worth a thousand words......and it is true.

As for the “They Call It Pro Football.” video described in the article, I managed to find it on You Tube:


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