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 Post subject: Re: Austria elects a "far right" president
PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:37 pm 
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Uh Oh ...

He's baaaa aaaack

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... Austria's highest court has annulled the result of the presidential election narrowly lost by the candidate of the far-right Freedom Party.
The party had challenged the result, saying that postal votes had been illegally and improperly handled.
The Freedom Party candidate, Norbert Hofer, lost the election to the former leader of the Greens, Alexander Van der Bellen, by just 30,863 votes or less than one percentage point.
The election will now be re-run.
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 Post subject: Re: Austria elects a "far right" president
PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:04 am 
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Uh Oh ...

He's baaaa aaaack

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... Austria's highest court has annulled the result of the presidential election narrowly lost by the candidate of the far-right Freedom Party.
The party had challenged the result, saying that postal votes had been illegally and improperly handled.
The Freedom Party candidate, Norbert Hofer, lost the election to the former leader of the Greens, Alexander Van der Bellen, by just 30,863 votes or less than one percentage point.
The election will now be re-run.
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A re-vote is in order. That should have been in Florida 2000, so many irregularities.

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 Post subject: Re: Austria elects a "far right" president
PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:36 am 
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An update to this thread to reflect the results of yesterday's elections in Austria:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/austria-set- ... 25791.html

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Austrian 'whizz-kid' in election triumph

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Nina Lamparski and Simon Sturdee
AFPOctober 15, 2017

Vienna (AFP) - Austria's political "whizz-kid" Sebastian Kurz was on course Sunday to become Europe's youngest leader, potentially in coalition with the far-right after its best result in almost 20 years.

Kurz's conservative People's Party (OeVP) won 31.7 percent of the vote, followed by Chancellor Christian Kern's Social Democrats (SPOe) on 26.9 percent, projections that were broadly in line with preliminary results showed.

Close behind was the nationalist Freedom Party (FPOe) on 26.0 percent, twice that of their allies the Alternative for Germany (AfD) last month and close to its all-time record of 26.8 percent in 1999 under then-leader Joerg Haider.

Kurz, 31, nicknamed "wunderwuzzi" ("whizz-kid"), took over the OeVP in May and managed to attract supporters in droves by depicting himself as a breath of fresh air, talking tough on immigration and vowing to slash taxes and red tape.

"I promise I will fight for great change in this country. It's time to establish a new political style and a new culture in this country," Kurz said Sunday.

But to form a government, Kurz will have to enter a coalition with one of the other parties.

The most likely partner is seen as the populist FPOe of Heinz-Christian Strache, 48, although this is far from guaranteed.


"We are waiting for the final result," Kurz said.

"If the president tasks me with forming a government, I will seek talks with all parties. I want change, and that requires partners."

Another option for Kurz would be a new "grand coalition" with the SPOe, but after 10 acrimonious years governing together -- ended early by Kurz in May -- this is seen as less likely.

An even more remote possibility in the wealthy EU member of 8.75 million people is a tie-up between the FPOe and the SPOe Social Democrats, whose campaign suffered a string of mishaps.

"We want to assume responsibility. This can be in many different forms," SPOe leader Kern said Sunday.

- Stolen thunder -

In December, the FPOe almost won the presidency and topped opinion polls in the midst of Europe's migrant crisis.

But since taking over the OeVP in May and re-branding it as his personal "movement", Kurz has stolen some of Strache's thunder.

As foreign minister, the rosy-cheeked Kurz claims credit for closing the Balkan migrant trail in 2016 that saw hundreds of thousands of migrants trek into western Europe.

He wants to cut benefits for all foreigners, even from the rest of the EU, reduce bureaucracy and stop the EU having too much say in national affairs -- in common with Strache.

"Large parts of our manifesto have been adopted by other parties," Strache said ruefully Sunday. "That shows that we are the ones who are in the lead when it comes to issues."

The last time the FPOe entered government, in 2000 under Haider, who praised Hitler's "orderly" employment policies, Austria was ostracised in Europe.

But there would not be the same backlash now, owing to the "normalisation of the far-right in Europe since then," said expert Pepijn Bergsen at the Economist Intelligence Unit.

"The FPOe is a different party," finance student Marcus Kronberg, 23, told AFP at the OeVP's election party.

"There was nothing to be ashamed of as an Austrian. I have no problems with (a FPOe coalition) and I hope Brussels will see things the same way."

- EU headache -

But the FPOe in government would still pose a fresh headache for Brussels as it struggles with Brexit and the rise of nationalists in Germany, Hungary, Poland and elsewhere.

Like AfD, French National Front chief Marine Le Pen and Geert Wilders in the Netherlands -- who both congratulated Strache on Twitter on Sunday -- the FPOe has stoked concerns about a record influx of migrants into Europe.

The party was founded by ex-Nazis in the 1950s -- Strache flirted with neo-Nazism in his youth -- and is ambivalent at best about the EU. In an alliance with President Vladimir Putin's party, Strache wants EU sanctions on Moscow lifted.

Vienna will hold the EU's presidency in the second half of 2018, just when Brussels wants to conclude Brexit talks.

"The Freedom Party as a government partner will not make a good impression in Europe (and) Kurz is aware of that," commented Der Standard newspaper.

Ulrike Lunacek, whose Green party may miss out on entering parliament for the first time since 1986, said Sunday the FPOe in government would put Austria "on an anti-EU course".

Late Sunday, a few hundred anti-fascist demonstrators held a protest outside parliament.



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But the FPOe in government would still pose a fresh headache for Brussels as it struggles with Brexit and the rise of nationalists in Germany, Hungary, Poland and elsewhere.


And then the headline in this article:

Austria election RESULTS: Eurosceptic Sebastian Kurz declares VICTORY in nightmare for EU

The EU is in disarray and the "leaders" in Brussels (and elsewhere) are simply sticking their heads into the ground like ostriches. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Austria elects a "far right" president
PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:39 am 
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From yet another article:

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The takeover of the OeVP in May by "Emperor Kurz" was as swift as it was radical.

First he ended the decade-long unhappy coalition with the Social Democrats (SPOe). Then he rebranded the OeVP and its black party colour as a turquoise "movement" tough on migrants and easy on taxes.

The strategy of "putting Austrians first" propelled the sluggish OeVP to pole position in opinion polls and Kurz to near-rock star status.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/austrias-kur ... 17117.html

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 Post subject: Re: Austria elects a "far right" president
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From yet another article:

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The takeover of the OeVP in May by "Emperor Kurz" was as swift as it was radical.

First he ended the decade-long unhappy coalition with the Social Democrats (SPOe). Then he rebranded the OeVP and its black party colour as a turquoise "movement" tough on migrants and easy on taxes.

The strategy of "putting Austrians first" propelled the sluggish OeVP to pole position in opinion polls and Kurz to near-rock star status.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/austrias-kur ... 17117.html

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:lol:

It amazes me how so many journalists mention or allude to "nationalism", alone, as something horrible.

Only proves that those journos are globalist stooges who don't think their politicians should give their own countrymen prioritized consideration over foreigners. Why would you bother electing representatives in your gov't if they don't represent their own citizens' interests?

Electing globalist politicians isn't in the interest of most people. Yet many have been programmed to believe they should support it, to their own detriment. :roll:

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NefariousKoel wrote:

:lol:

It amazes me how so many journalists mention or allude to "nationalism", alone, as something horrible.

Only proves that those journos are globalist stooges who don't think their politicians should give their own countrymen prioritized consideration over foreigners. Why would you bother electing representatives in your gov't if they don't represent their own citizens' interests?

Electing globalist politicians isn't in the interest of most people. Yet many have been programmed to believe they should support it, to their own detriment. :roll:


I think that there is as much chance for achieving some sort of "globalist" government, as there is for Esperanto becoming a universally used language. :lol:

But the "globalists" will never give up trying...

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Only proves that those journos are globalist stooges who don't think their politicians should give their own countrymen prioritized consideration over foreigners.


It always puzzles me that people think this shocking. The left has always thought this way, but it's really the mainstream now, or at least the mainstream as presented by the media, not necessarily the one expressed at the ballot box and in polls.

It's actually immoral to have your government discriminating against its own citizens in favour of foreigners, IMHO. It breaks the social contract, the fundamental reason of how taxation can be justified. Charity is certainly moral, but only if it's voluntary. Transfers to foreigners through compulsory taxation strikes me as fundamentally at odds with what government is for.

And even aside from that, if the British government isn't going to look after Brits, then who will? The Chinese government? It's just barking mad.

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Charity, in fact, REQUIRES a voluntary act. That is the whole point. It makes you feel good....but the idea that you make it compulsory under the penalty of deprivation of liberty is in itself immoral.


As "nationalist" has begun to lose its pejorative meaning, the Left have introduced new code words...like "nativist". That could mena naything...liek a guy who likes to wear loincloths.

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Charity, in fact, REQUIRES a voluntary act. That is the whole point. It makes you feel good....but the idea that you make it compulsory under the penalty of deprivation of liberty is in itself immoral.


As "nationalist" has begun to lose its pejorative meaning, the Left have introduced new code words...like "nativist". That could mena naything...liek a guy who likes to wear loincloths.


Another term that they like to throw around is "Nazi".

And, unfortunately, someday, due to using the word willy nilly to describe anyone and anything, the meaning of the "Nazi", in reference to ACTUAL Nazis, will have lost its meaning.

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:lol:

It amazes me how so many journalists mention or allude to "nationalism", alone, as something horrible.

Only proves that those journos are globalist stooges who don't think their politicians should give their own countrymen prioritized consideration over foreigners. Why would you bother electing representatives in your gov't if they don't represent their own citizens' interests?

Electing globalist politicians isn't in the interest of most people. Yet many have been programmed to believe they should support it, to their own detriment. :roll:


The Honorable Senator from Arizona seems to take issue with your views on nationalism:

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Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) blasted “half-baked, spurious nationalism” in the United States in an emotional speech Monday night after receiving the National Constitution Center’s Liberty Medal.

“To fear the world we have organized and led for three-quarters of a century, to abandon the ideals we have advanced around the globe, to refuse the obligations of international leadership and our duty to remain 'the last best hope of earth' for the sake of some half-baked, spurious nationalism cooked up by people who would rather find scapegoats than solve problems is as unpatriotic as an attachment to any other tired dogma of the past that Americans consigned to the ash heap of history,” McCain said in the speech.

The Arizona senator said “we live in a land made of ideals, not blood and soil” and said Americans “are the custodians of those ideals at home, and their champion abroad.”

“We have done great good in the world. That leadership has had its costs, but we have become incomparably powerful and wealthy as we did,” McCain said.

“We have a moral obligation to continue in our just cause, and we would bring more than shame on ourselves if we don’t. We will not thrive in a world where our leadership and ideals are absent.”


http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3557 ... nal-speech

Did you hear that Neff? You're half baked. :lol:

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