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 Post subject: Re: Illegal Immigration--Euro style
PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:39 pm 
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Well, it is sad to say that, but as long as those criminal gangs are non-white, the left considers them as victims, not as criminals. That was the case when a guy from the left in France said that he was happy that a gendarme was killed by a terrorist some monthes ago. I am sure that he saw that terrorist as a victim, only because he was a Muslim. You can kill father and mother, as long as you are not white, it is ok, we will help you.


Disturbing.

It's past time we eject the 'victimhood olympics' mentality. It is one of the most blatantly racist & bigoted widespread societal beliefs I've witnessed in my lifetime.

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 Post subject: Re: Illegal Immigration--Euro style
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:39 am 
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It only prevails in echo chambers where any and all conflicting views are immediately attacked - say, Facebook, online forums.

Say anything that contradicts the merits of "all the crackas made my life miserable because they are devils" and find the thread locked - deleted and the 'counter-revolutionary' banned and anyone who even asks "why was it locked" treated the same way with the typical far left "No discussion, our word is final and absolute. Next person asking what happened will be sh.. banned."

As soon as you have a place like Quora or so with a Be Nice Be Respectable-policy SJWs are blown out of the water - anyone can say what they *really think*, no account gets banned and no answer locked or deleted for "expressing unacceptable and intolerable views" by SJW standards. The SJWs can spout their bullshit and then reasonable people can give their more reasonable answers.

Turns out 90% or more of the answers I've ever read on SJW are completely hostile to the very area of SJW with a few of "they have good intentions but they don't know what the hell they're doing".

And it's not "oh, them redneck hillbillies". Sure, there are guys like a software developer from LA who is 100% SJW - and has prevented any commentary from being made to his answers so he cannot be contradicted in his own answers - but most people including his own colleagues are fed up with the SJW bullshit and have been *harassed* by SJWs to the extent that they're taking up a stand against it - NO MORE!

But give a place such as some campus and a faculty of "throwing shit on the wall and bullshitting everyone" or "why crackas are the evilest people"-studies, yea, the professors themselves will be die hard commies who don't tolerate any objections.

Quite a different study in real faculties such as engineering, economics etc. Essentially people who understand how systems work are not as easily swayed by Marxist bullshit. It's mostly the metheads and wine consuming "we don't think on this faculty, we FEEL".

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:16 pm 
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Apparently, that will not help Merkel in her struggle with her interior minister.

Migration summit crisis as Visegrad states BOYCOTT meeting

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HUNGARIAN Prime Minister Viktor Orban has announced he and three other Central European states will not attend a crucial EU migration summit this weekend as the row over a bloc-wide immigration policy continues to intensify.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:38 pm 
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Merkel is going to do a Hindenburg eventually... ie crash and burn.

But even when she does the EU institutions won’t chamge to reflect the new realities for years if ever.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:58 pm 
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Merkel is going to do a Hindenburg eventually... ie crash and burn.

But even when she does the EU institutions won’t chamge to reflect the new realities for years if ever.

Yes, if Merkel falls or not, that will not change the EU institutions. But it is not the case of the immigration problem. If it persists and increases, it might cause the end of Schengen, one of the pillar of the EU. That could announce the end of the EU, the beginning.


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Shame that that whole pan-national union thing didn't work out for you folks. Better luck next time!

History itself would have suggested that one should have expected it to fail as a result of ethnic tensions between the various European cultures/nations. But quite the contrary, it seems that the average French person, Brit, German, Dutch, etc. were all pretty much fully capable of "getting along" just fine. Rather, your "elites" and perhaps a very deeply historically ingrained tendency for elites to strive for autocracy seems to have killed it. It is probably far more complex than that, but that would be my superficial starting stab at understanding wtf. Given the amount of blood, suffering and treasure that has been expended on behalf of intra-European conflicts over the last two or three thousand years, the idea of some sort of "UNITY" among you lot seemed like a great idea _on paper_. But the difference between theory and practice is huge after all!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:27 pm 
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Shame that that whole pan-national union thing didn't work out for you folks. Better luck next time!

History itself would have suggested that one should have expected it to fail as a result of ethnic tensions between the various European cultures/nations. But quite the contrary, it seems that the average French person, Brit, German, Dutch, etc. were all pretty much fully capable of "getting along" just fine. Rather, your "elites" and perhaps a very deeply historically ingrained tendency for elites to strive for autocracy seems to have killed it. It is probably far more complex than that, but that would be my superficial starting stab at understanding wtf. Given the amount of blood, suffering and treasure that has been expended on behalf of intra-European conflicts over the last two or three thousand years, the idea of some sort of "UNITY" among you lot seemed like a great idea _on paper_. But the difference between theory and practice is huge after all!


In 1960 the Lord Chancellor advised Edward Heath that entering the EEC "is the first step on the road which leads ... to the fully federal state." But Heath told us, "there are some in this country who fear that in going into Europe, we shall in some way sacrifice independence and sovereignty. These fears I need hardly say are completely unjustified."


Yet when asked later (1990) if he wanted "a United States of Europe," he replied, "Of course, yes."


I think on the continent they were more honest about what the intention of the EEC ultimately was. But in the UK there was always the reek of deception about it thanks to Edward Heath. Apparently during the referendum campaign mentions of Heath at Leave events provoked shouts of 'Traitor!' even though we're talking about events before most were born let alone politically aware. That deception was remembered, and has seriously poisoned the image of the EU. Only the very young, born post forming the EU in the 90s, seem to be sufficiently brainwashed to be unaware or uncaring of that original lie.

The EU has certainly attempted to indoctrinate people, it has a huge marketing budget and is quite overt about what it's doing. 'forging a European identity', well, that's propaganda, in it's most original form. And it's done a pretty good job, they aren't stupid. There's talk of 'opinion multipliers' and stuff like that in EU publications, by which we mean influence over media broadcasters, teachers, academics, etc. But I think this sort of indoctrination is a pretty shaky basis for the state without genuine grassroots buyin. And there have been a lot of blatant EU policy failures in the past 20 years. In fact it's kinda hard to put a finger on any EU policy successes when you think about it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:32 pm 
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Shame that that whole pan-national union thing didn't work out for you folks. Better luck next time!

History itself would have suggested that one should have expected it to fail as a result of ethnic tensions between the various European cultures/nations. But quite the contrary, it seems that the average French person, Brit, German, Dutch, etc. were all pretty much fully capable of "getting along" just fine. Rather, your "elites" and perhaps a very deeply historically ingrained tendency for elites to strive for autocracy seems to have killed it. It is probably far more complex than that, but that would be my superficial starting stab at understanding wtf. Given the amount of blood, suffering and treasure that has been expended on behalf of intra-European conflicts over the last two or three thousand years, the idea of some sort of "UNITY" among you lot seemed like a great idea _on paper_. But the difference between theory and practice is huge after all!


In 1960 the Lord Chancellor advised Edward Heath that entering the EEC "is the first step on the road which leads ... to the fully federal state." But Heath told us, "there are some in this country who fear that in going into Europe, we shall in some way sacrifice independence and sovereignty. These fears I need hardly say are completely unjustified."


Yet when asked later (1990) if he wanted "a United States of Europe," he replied, "Of course, yes."


I think on the continent they were more honest about what the intention of the EEC ultimately was. But in the UK there was always the reek of deception about it thanks to Edward Heath. Apparently during the referendum campaign mentions of Heath at Leave events provoked shouts of 'Traitor!' even though we're talking about events before most were born let alone politically aware. That deception was remembered, and has seriously poisoned the image of the EU. Only the very young, born post forming the EU in the 90s, seem to be sufficiently brainwashed to be unaware or uncaring of that original lie.

Churchill had also ideas about united Europe too. But apparently Britain with her Empire not in it. But most likely he wanted a buffer zone against the USSR. :roll:

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Apocalypse on Lesbos
Posted on June 21, 2018 by Baron Bodissey

Overcrowded facilities crammed with thousands of migrants. Gutmenschen to cater to them. Wasted food, filth, disease, fraud, and official corruption: welcome to the Morria migrant camp on Lesbos.

Many thanks to Tanya T for translating this Bulgarian documentary, and to Vlad Tepes for the subtitling:


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I think Vlad may have cut some footage, so the transcript is probably longer than the video above.

Video transcript:

Continue reading → https://gatesofvienna.net/2018/06/apoca ... more-46034

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